I picked all of the answers because I can see each one of them working, and possibly at the same time, and even something else. My P is too high these days :p
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05-11-2007, 04:53 PM #21
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05-11-2007, 07:48 PM #22
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I would be load bearing for the other events I kick start by my existance and that would make me more significant than if destiny don't exist. If destiny don't exist if things can be random - my presence wouldn't be essential. I could exist or not and trigger various events but I wouldn't be missing in the programming because as such doesn't exist.
You share far less dependencies that say, the stars, the moon, the earth... all of which would be equally predestined...
In theory, we don't know if a small seemingly insignificant event on earth, in the big picture, perhaps triggers more events than the sun, moon and stars. With our limited perception and the nature laws we live under - we only perceive it that way. Could be that in a higher dimension, an existant/non existant being living under other nature laws, would be able to perceive it differently. Similar to respectively my cats limited perception of a visit to a vet and mine.
My cats perception: Park, cat carrier, car drive, injection needle, vet = insignificant (but mean).
My perception: Infectious diseases, protection = significant (and good).
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In theory, we don't know if a small seemingly insignificant event on earth, in the big picture, perhaps triggers more events than the sun, moon and stars.Last edited by Park; 05-12-2007 at 11:29 AM.
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05-11-2007, 11:17 PM #23
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05-11-2007, 11:21 PM #24
I don't think my existence is the product of blind chance, but I don't consider myself particularly significant in the great scheme of things. My own great-great-grandchildren will probably not even know what my name is let alone anything about me.
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05-14-2007, 04:31 AM #25
That's an excellent question.... I feel "significant" and don't believe in predestination, but do get a feeling that the Universe applies a "karma" test to us. In summary, our actions come back to haunt us, even if there is no direct causal link with the end result.
It is this universal karma that leads me to feel significant.. the universe cares enough... in some sense...to assess me for better or worse. Yes I know that is not based on anything logical, it's a gut instinct (borne out by limited experience).
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05-14-2007, 05:41 AM #26
I'm significant to myself. Beyond that, I can't really say. It does appear to be an inclination for humans to desire to be significant. I suppose it is that desire that drives each individual to survive? In creatures there is a drive to desire to exist. Those with the strongest desire tend to survive. Can't say that makes anyone significant, but it is interesting in relationship to either scenario. It's either deeply ironic or intuitive.
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05-14-2007, 10:58 AM #27
Originally Posted by Park
But isn't it only our limited perception of life which makes us assume that? If all things are preprogrammed, then all things, all beings, big/tiny etc. would have an equal value because all events would be dependant on each other and be a part of that program - in that picture, the movement of a tiny stone falling to the ground would have just as much significance as the moon - simply because it is part of the line/lines of events.
Doesn't the word *chaos* just describe everything which we don't understand?
If you take that view, it's possible that humans are significant and random! However, I feel that at this time, we can't be seen that way... maybe when we span a few planets... a few galaxies, clusters... We just don't have an impact on existance, in the scope of things, regardless of how we feel right now.
Hmmm, interesting. I disagree... but I do agree on karma as a general concept. Interesting differences in how things are approached.
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05-20-2007, 03:18 PM #28
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I think my existence is completely insignificant and due to some event that started a chain of causality. This event may be random or not. Hence, my existence is tied to the existence of every other living organism because of common causal factors.
In any case, my perception of freedom is an illusion that is part of the causal chain. If all variables were known, it would be possible to predict exactly my behavior.
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