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1. Originally Posted by ragashree
Since when does philosophy rely on mere common contemporary definitions?
It doesn't... but the conventional answer is an appropriate jumping-off point for forays into how the answer changes when the common contemporary definitions are altered. My answer wasn't the end of the discussion... it was the beginning.

2. Originally Posted by ragashree
That's what we're working on
Ok, problem is you dont know how to add. If you did why would you be asking that question? To prove I know the answer? But in that case what is the problem? Do you need to rely on me for my knowledge? Why would you need to rely on me? Is it because you dont know how to add? Why wouldnt you know how to add? Have you ever tried figuring it out on your own? Why havnt you tried figuring it out on your own? Is it even possible to figure that out on your own. Its just symbols. Its not like someone handed you 2 sets of things and asked how many you had. How do you even figure out what symbols mean unless you have more to go on. Is that even a question in the first place.

3. What? Each symbol represents some imaginary number of imaginary objects.

2 = 2 objects. So, 2+2=4?

What's going on I here?

4. Originally Posted by MagnificentMind
What? Each symbol represents some imaginary number of imaginary objects.

2 = 2 objects. So, 2+2=4?

What's going on I here?
But why is 2+2=? even a problem? Its not really a problem at all unless you dont know how to add. But even in that case WHY do you need to know what 2+2 is. That is the real problem. Follow the why's backward. The person who asked you what 2+2 is may be nothing more then what they think they need to do to solve the problem, so 2+2 is actually a part of the solution not the problem...what is the problem?

edit: soory if my wording comes out jumbled. English is my native language, but language is not my native way of thinking.

5. Originally Posted by oberon
It doesn't... but the conventional answer is an appropriate jumping-off point for forays into how the answer changes when the common contemporary definitions are altered. My answer wasn't the end of the discussion... it was the beginning.

Originally Posted by poki
Ok, problem is you dont know how to add. If you did why would you be asking that question? To prove I know the answer? But in that case what is the problem? Do you need to rely on me for my knowledge? Why would you need to rely on me? Is it because you dont know how to add? Why wouldnt you know how to add? Have you ever tried figuring it out on your own? Why havnt you tried figuring it out on your own? Is it even possible to figure that out on your own. Its just symbols. Its not like someone handed you 2 sets of things and asked how many you had. How do you even figure out what symbols mean unless you have more to go on. Is that even a question in the first place.
See? It is a problem, precisely because of the lack of context. Your questions begin to identify the difficulties this causes. Are you doubting your own ability to find a solution without further information yet?

6. Originally Posted by ragashree

See? It is a problem, precisely because of the lack of context. Your questions begin to identify the difficulties this causes. Are you doubting your own ability to find a solution without further information yet?
No, I am just playing. A problem has yet to be defined. Do you see the problem with that line of thought I went through?

7. My dad famously (in my family circle) referred to math as "mental masturbation."

8. Originally Posted by poki
No, I am just playing. A problem has yet to be defined. Do you see the problem with that line of thought I went through?
Many Now the question is, which one is most pertinent?

9. Originally Posted by ragashree
2 + 2 = ?

Alright, I'm quite bored anyway.

We can say the "?" Exists as an unknown entity that can be revealed through means of logically reconfiguring what it equals to. Or if one is too lazy to do that one can simply substitute the "?" with what it equals to therefore solving by means of allowing the original entities to stay as they are.

There are an infinite number of ways to reconfigure the known entities and it is by common human expectation to choose the one that exists as a single entity in the numerical sense known as the sum.

It is therefore comfortable to announce that to solve the "?" entity one must find the sum of the existing entities already known.

2 + 2 = 4

10. 2 + 2 = 4
2^2 = 4

2 + 2 = 4 = 2^2

Thus

2 + 2 = 2^2

3 + 3 = 6
3^3 = 27

3 + 3 != 3^3

Thus

2 + 2 = 2^2 and is special and unique

So to answer the philosophical question, you are 2 + 2 and are a special and a unique person

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