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The Traditional Values Poll

I believe in...


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The Ü™

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then what punishment do the irresponsible guys get?

They get to be the father, of course! And besides, the woman could have told him to use a condom before doing anything...

(I don't really care actually, it just makes me laugh when women who have sex without a condom are so surprised to find out that they're pregnant. I get a kick out of it.)
 

ChazzMichaels

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My Values

Abstinence before Marriage A good idea to develop a relationship beyond sex.
Fidelity in Marriage A good way to maintain that relationship.
Against Pornography Whatever.
Against Homosexual/Bisexual/Transgender behavior I don't even need to know about it. Keep it to yourself.
Patriotism Not too extreme, but I believe it is needed to pull our country out of the gutter. Some of those Bush bumper stickers are just awful.(Not that I think he is the greatest myself.)
Religious Freedom As with sexual orientation, keep it to yourself! Do not impose upon anyone else unless they are endangering other lives.
Right to Life: Against Abortion and Euthanasia I believe Abortion and Euthanasia is murder, but I don't think it should be illegal necessarily...
Against Addictive Drugs As long as no one else is being harmed.
Against Alcohol Be Responsible.
Against Gambling See Above.
Intolerant to any behavior that may destroy individuals, families, and our culture. Individuals should be able to choose to destroy themselves.
Discrimination is the wisdom of choosing between good and evil. I decide what is good and what is evil under different circumstances.. ???
The Ends Justify the Means.Rarely.
 

Roger Mexico

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Abstinence before Marriage-- not for me, but a personal choice. I do kind of think it's an unhealthy doctrine that promotes ignorance.

Fidelity in Marriage--well, yeah. Don't make a promise you aren't going to keep.

Against Pornography--Nope.

Against Homosexual/Bisexual/Transgender behavior--"only if both chicks are hot." Not really. Seriously, I don't understand why anyone would object. Gay guys just make my odds better.

Patriotism-- "the last refuge of the scoundrel."

Religious Freedom-- as long as my freedom to not be religious is just as protected as someone else's right to practice a religion, then, yes, it's a necessary principle to uphold in a free society. But that doesn't mean you can dictate other people's behavior because it offends your religion. And God should definitely be kept out of politics. Fat chance, I know, but that's largely why we're in the mess we're in.

Right to Life: Against Abortion and Euthanasia-- I firmly support the right to die, so long as the person requests it. Anti-abortion types are just kooky.

Against Addictive Drugs-- heavy smoker, which is entirely my own fault. Personal responsibility.

Against Alcohol-- hell no.

Against Gambling--nope.

Intolerant to any behavior that may destroy individuals, families, and our
culture.-- only if that behavior "destroys" an individual that doesn't consent to it. Same thing with families. Intolerance in defense of "Our Culture" is pretty much the definition of fascism.

Discrimination is the wisdom of choosing between good and evil.-- This makes no sense.

The Ends Justify the Means.-- I believe it's important to evaluate an action in terms of its consequences, but all of its consequences, intentional and otherwise, need to be considered.
 

Hypomanic

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I nominate Uberfuhrer for ShitLord of the month.

I agree!

The only reason I'm pro-life for promiscuous women (without condom) is because I want them to suffer for their lack of responsibility. Other than that, let's kill babies!
(I don't really care actually, it just makes me laugh when women who have sex without a condom are so surprised to find out that they're pregnant. I get a kick out of it.)

Wow. You're a mean person.
 

Zergling

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I agree!



Wow. You're a mean person.

If you look into posting histories, you'll notice a lot of comments like the one you quoted, many of them are simply attention grabbers. The best way to handle them is to ignore them.
 

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Most of those categories are difficult for me to settle on in all cases like fidelity in marriage. Generally speaking it seems a good idea not to lie and betray someone you profess to love, but if there is honesty and agreement between individuals, then that might work for them. It's just complicated. Abortion and Euthanasia can be destructive, but once again context is important.

The only one I voted for was religious freedom because that seems more of a societal issue than a personal one. In that I mean it creates the broad context in which the individual may find freedom. Freedom of conscience is important. Respecting people enough to allow them to value what they choose is the basis of my humanity. It is also why I support gays and lesbians. I see that in an equivalent light to religious freedom. It is support of personal freedom. It is about respecting the boundary that separates me from another person.
 

Mycroft

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Thanks to this poll, I now know who to respect and who to pigeonhole as ignorant tyrants.
 

Kiddo

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Thanks to this poll, I now know who to respect and who to pigeonhole as ignorant tyrants.

You couldn't figure that out without this poll? :harhar:


It's actually been a fun poll. I now understand traditional values, and people's perspective on them much more clearly.
 

Totenkindly

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Thanks to this poll, I now know who to respect and who to pigeonhole as ignorant tyrants.

Fool! You shall call me Jadis, Queen of Charn, and lay prostate at the feet of my terrible beauty!
 

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Abortion:
I'm against abortion if the baby was conceived as a byproduct of consensual sex. I am not against abortion if it was rape, or, I suppose, some medical condition where the mother will die if the baby is not aborted (assuming the baby is only weeks old in utero at this point).

Euthanasia:
Assuming the person wanting to die is fully able to understand what's going on, and has time to make a decision for themselves, is old enough to make the decision (I have no idea where that cut off would be, though), etc. I think it's none of my business. I don't know what it's like to have excruciating pain 24/7 with no hope of getting better. What kind of life is that? They can choose to live (or die) how they want to.

Fidelity in marriage is a given--if you're saying your vows, you'd better mean them. If you don't believe in the vows, why get married? Why not just be a common-law couple?

Porn:
I'm against it b/c it's such a time waster, for the most part. Also, partially religious views, as I believe sex is a form of Worship and shouldn't be self-centered, but partner-centered. Same reasoning for my no-sex-before-marriage views.
 

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1. Religious Freedom/Fidelity in Marriage
2. Being against addictive drugs
3. Abstinence/Right to Life
4. Patriotism/Being intolerant to harmful behaviors/against pornography
5. Against homosexual/bisexual/transgender behaviors/Against Gambling/The Ends justify the Means
6. Against Alcohol
7. Discrimination

Interesting. Religious freedom and fidelity in marriage are way up there and being against alcohol is practically dead last.
 

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Thanks to this poll, I now know who to respect and who to pigeonhole as ignorant tyrants.

Remember: if you live by the sword, you will die by the sword.

Just because you disagree with someone doesn't mean you can't respect him/her. I believe that I can respect anyone, even if we find much to disagree on.

This attitude will ultimately hurt you more than anyone else, though, because it makes you seem bigoted and exactly what you accuse other people of being, and you will lose the ability to understand and communicate with others.
 

Kiddo

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A humorous thought. Two of the three highest traditional values are fidelity in marriage and being against addictive drugs, and yet whenever you hear about some staunch politician being in trouble for something, it usually involves an affair or a drug problem. Coinkydink?
 
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