Would wanting exist without needing?

[Quay]

I think this could go in this area.

This question just popped into my mind and I wanted to chop it up with you all....

I haven't formed any opinions, as my mind is always dissecting...

Thoughts?

 

[disregard]

Wanting would exist without needing because having gives lend to wanting.

 

[KDude]

The Stones sung about this, right?

I guess they can be related, but in many cases, they are two different things. Wanting can be pretty ugly sometimes.

 

[Quay]

The Stones sung about this, right?

I guess they can be related, but in many cases, they are two different things. Wanting can be pretty ugly sometimes.

I don't know if they sang it. I am just now expanding my musical selection...Please pardon the ignorance.

I think needing can get ugly too, like the Hurricane Katrina fiasco...

 

[miss fortune]

I want my own private island in the carribean (hopefully like Dr No's island!), but I don't NEED one...

 

[KDude]

I don't know if they sang it. I am just now expanding my musical selection...Please pardon the ignorance.

I think needing can get ugly too, like the Hurricane Katrina fiasco...

I would say the ugliness of "needing" is more about.. umm.. survival? Maybe? Sometimes surviving requires desperate measures, but it can be justified in a certain light.

While the ugliness of "wanting" isn't so much survival based as much as it's just self-gratification, and all in all, very unnecessary.

Or so I think off the top of my head. Kind of in a rush right now, but that's what comes to mind.

 

[ThatsWhatHeSaid]

I want my own private island in the carribean (hopefully like Dr No's island!), but I don't NEED one...

I accidentally read this post, but I actually agree. Needing implies desperation and fixation on consequence. If I don't get what I need, I get sad. If I don't get what I want...fuck it. If you curb your desperation, you can transition from needing to wanting.

 

[Salt n' pepper]

Yes, wanting would exist without needing.
I want to respond to this thread.
But I needn't.
However, I did.
Because I wanted to.


I will prove this, by deleting my post in about 5 minutes.

 

[human101]

needs are necessary for survival wanting depends on the existence of material things cavemen probably only had needs wanting grew as civilization developed

 

[Litvyak]

Yes, wanting would exist without needing.
I want to respond to this thread.
But I needn't.
However, I did.
Because I wanted to.

I will prove this, by deleting my post in about 5 minutes.

QFT!

 

[Lark]

Wants and needs are different things.

I think the evidence that people still experience wants when their needs are met is everywhere.

Whether this is human nature or a consequence of modern conditions, specifically the keynesian money circulating economy and consumer cultural norms and mores is up for debate.

I'm not thinking purely in terms of the needs which translate easily into commodities here, like fast moving consumer goods, ie food, or consumer durables, TV, laptops, music, entertainment. Those consumer norms contaminate everything else, including less tangible needs like needs for attachment, time, attention, relating with others. People try to buy those things, then with money to be made people try to ramp demand and stimulate peoples wanting.

 

[Salt n' pepper]

QFT!

WHYYY??