If you....

[Feops]

I would beg for forgiveness, anyone who wouldn't is a fool.

I wouldn't beg for forgiveness simply for existing. That's like begging your father not to whip you simply because he hates that you were born. Fathers like that are not creatures of goodness and benevolance.

 

[Queen Kat]

That's funny, I've written something about this just recently. It was some kind of screenplay and it was about a character based on me the way I imagine myself at age 35. I'll translate:

Kat:
Huh?! What is this? Where am I? O my god, I'm 35 again! What, what… Huh?!

St. Peter:
We are going to interrupt this wonderful dream for an important newsflash! Hello. My name is St. Peter and YOU are dead!

Kat:
Huh?! Dead?! How could that happen?!

St. Peter:
Because I say so.

Kat:
I can't be dead!

St. Peter:
You died in your sleep. A satelite fell on your house and crushed your body.

Kat:
That sucks.

St. Peter:
This is heaven's gate. There are three doors right behind me. One of them lead to heaven, another one leads to hell and the last one leads to purgatory. I'm not going to tell you which one is behind which door, that is still a surprise! But where are you going? Let's see what the damage is. (A big screen rolls into the room and it's going to show all the sins Kat has committed.) This screen behind me is going to show you which where all the sins you've committed. And heeeeeere comes your first sin! You were unbaptised!

Kat:
I'm sorry. My parents were very anti-religious.

St. Peter:
You had 35 years to become religious. Next sin! You've had yourself candy about 45000 times. That was four times a day. All the times you had sex with your husband you faked your orgasms, that was 951 times to be exact. You cursed 3 million times in your whole life, that's 10 times an hour. Your favorite curses were "shit" and "fuck". You've stolen about 167 times in your entire life, most of it was money from your fathers waller. You spent about 20000 euros on cosmetics, and that only includes make-up, moisturisers ans hairgel. You had pro-life ideals and you stood behind female, gay and animal rights. That was the list! But well, youre dead now. Do you have a last request?

Kat:
Staying alive.

St. Peter:
What a stupid wish. Take the right door, please.

Kat slowly walks to the right door. She opens it and goes into a very dark hallway. When she enters the hallway, the door closes itself. She walks on, but it stays dark. In the end she reaches a black curtain. Kat opens it. Two demons come to her.

Demon 1:
Ah! Kat! Welcome to hell! Get in our flying pedalo! We are going to take you to your final destination!

Demon 2:
We are going to bring you to the deepest circle of hell. We haven't done this in quite a while. Last time was with, er, what was that guys name again?

Demon 1:
I don't remember. It was such a long time ago, I don't even remember what he had done! (laughs)

Demon 2:
So sad that you have to go to hell now. We wished you the best, but the big boss had some other plans with you. Conservative little fella.

Demon 1:
Unfortunately you'll have to suffer for eternity now! (throws Kat into flying pedalo and gets in too)

Demon 2:
Hold on! Heeeere we go!

Kat:
Noooooooooooo!!!

 

[une_autre]

Died and found out there really was a god, and you are standing before him. What would your argument be? How do you think you would be judged?

It is pretty difficult to say given the distorted perspective the church offers. If there is a maker there, I think that I am a good person overall. However, although I do not think that I have committed a series of capital sins, probably if what the church says is true, I would be doomed.

I wouldn't be able to beg for forgiveness as technically that would be untrue. I don't consider that I have something to repent for, which means that an attempt to do so would be dishonest.

Oh well, if there is a true creator, I just refuse to think that he would judge us all after some obtuse principles that were taught to us, instead of the true nature of our soul.

 

[Litvyak]

Died and found out there really was a god, and you are standing before him. What would your argument be?

"I hoped that you don't exist, since if you do, that means you really-really suck. Send me to hell or whatever, but you still suck."

How do you think you would be judged?

Well, depends. Is it a benevolent or a malevolent god?

 

[foolish heart]

I wouldn't beg for forgiveness simply for existing. That's like begging your father not to whip you simply because he hates that you were born. Fathers like that are not creatures of goodness and benevolance.

Doesn't matter. To an omniscience and omnipotent being, your only viable option is to appeal to its mercy. People who want to try and reason with such a being overestimate themselves.

Imagine all these reactions in the context of an ant (who can speak) on the palm of your hand. How is that gonna work out? Good luck.

 

[Oeufa]

I don't know what I'd say. I don't see why I'd have to apologise for being the flawed human I was born as (as this Creator I'd be facing made me. I might ask why we were bothered being sent to earth at all if it was only some twisted kind of waiting room for the rest of our existence.

 

[Tiltyred]

Died and found out there really was a god, and you are standing before him. What would your argument be? How do you think you would be judged?

I intend to march straight up to him and demand some explanations. He will have to justify himself to me before I consent to enter his heaven.

 

[MagnifaSnail]

Doesn't matter. To an omniscience and omnipotent being, your only viable option is to appeal to its mercy. People who want to try and reason with such a being overestimate themselves.

Imagine all these reactions in the context of an ant (who can speak) on the palm of your hand. How is that gonna work out? Good luck.

I don't understand how an "omniscient and omnipotent being" could even have sentiments/desires/opinions etc. able to be perceived by creatures such as ourselves that are so limited in comparison to it, let alone have a sense of mercy for us to "appeal" to. I mean really, something that vague and powerful would be utterly unknowable to a human.

To follow your ant analogy, well I wouldn't really care. I have no desire to judge or punish ants (unless they ruined my picnick) but I would be damned interested in the fact that there was an ant capable of speech, thought, and communication to a similar level of my own.

 

[foolish heart]

I mean really, something that vague and powerful would be utterly unknowable to a human.

This is my point, yes... you are completely at the mercy of their "will" whatever it may be. Acknowledging yourself as the ant is all you can do, and hope they will recognize enough value in your submissiveness to allow you to serve them in some way, "if my sheer existence doesn't insult you, master"

 

[Feops]

Doesn't matter. To an omniscience and omnipotent being, your only viable option is to appeal to its mercy. People who want to try and reason with such a being overestimate themselves.

Imagine all these reactions in the context of an ant (who can speak) on the palm of your hand. How is that gonna work out? Good luck.

Which is to say that pleading would assist one's case when talking to an omniscience and omnipotent being? Nothing you say matters, nothing you can offer matters.

The only aspect which MAY be outside the mechanical clockwork universe might be free will. How God appreciates the use of that free will is completely unknown. God might hate worship. For your ant I wouldn't feel vengeful towards even hatred towards me, because they're ants and I'm God, not some pathetic attention-seeking child. The ant that defies me might even impress me more as it would have chosen to exercise its free will to the fullest rather than bow in servitude.

 

[MagnifaSnail]

This is my point, yes... you are completely at the mercy of their "will" whatever it may be. Acknowledging yourself as the ant is all you can do, and hope they will recognize enough value in your submissiveness to allow you to serve them in some way, "if my sheer existence doesn't insult you, master"

The desire to please an omniscient being is entirely illogical. Our notions of devotion and servitude, our feelings of fear and hope would be completely alien and therefore lost on such a creature. Imagine the ant again, not a magical thinking/feeling ant denying humanity but a literal breath-too-hard-and-you'll-kill-it ant. From our perspective there is essentially no thought going on within the ant, just a robotic need to fuck, build, and eat as much as possible before dying. I imagine that this is how an omniscient being would perceive humanity, just as simply existing. Neither "good" nor "bad" (these words are really irrelevant as they are ideas created and carried out by and for humans and are in no way applicable to an omniscient creature) and certainly not worth administering rewards and punishment to.

Just because a being is all-powerful and all-knowing doesn't mean we need to grovel for a chance to serve it. It would have no reason, I think, to make it's acknowledgment of us even known. Again, a phrase such as "value of submissiveness" has no meaning to an omniscient being so there is no point in behaving in such a manner. I guess what I'm saying is that if I died and this somehow put me face-to-face with this Great Essence it would only be for an instant as I'm sure my existence would be very quickly overlooked. And this is all, for the sake of thought, accepting the conditions that such a being exists and that my consciousness continues after death, even transcending the reality I know.

 

[Unkindloving]

I've always taken a liking to this quote-
"Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones."
- Marcus Aurelius

I wouldn't have an argument for God. A few questions, perhaps, but no argument for my own sake. If the first portion of the quote applies then fantastic. If the second portion of the quote applies, then God could surely send me to Hell. To me, it would be more of the happenin' place with more happenin' souls in comparison.

 

[highlander]

I would beg for forgiveness, anyone who wouldn't is a fool.

+1

Absolutely would plead for mercy.

 

[Timeless]

I would also ask,

"So, what's your personality type?"

I'm pretty sure he'll respond:

God: I am XXXX.
Me: I never heard of that kind of porn before.
God: Smartass, get back on Earth young child.

 

[Andy]

Does that mean Jesus was an ENFP? You know, to connect people to the INTJ?

I've never tride typing jesus to be honest...

 

[Oeufa]

I've never tride typing jesus to be honest...

I think I read somewhere on a list of famous INFJs that he was one

 

[Shimmy]

Argument: Hey, let's have a beer.

Judgement: Okay.

 

[r.a]

if i died and stood before God there would be no argument. if i died and met God then obviously i did something right, since i wouldn't be burning up in hell. having judged the situation thus far, there would be no judging to be had after. besides, the key is to judge your own worth. if you live your whole life as an asshole and knew it and when you died accepted that you are an asshole and deserve hell, then you have already judged yourself and may end up in a fire pit being poked with pitchforks while linkin park plays endlessly on the PA system. but then again, i don't believe in hell or a God who personally meets you.

 

[Mad Hatter]

"I can't believe you're not butter!!"

 

[PuddleRiver]

No arguements from me, I'd just be on my knees feeling ashamed of all the bad things that I've done.

Judgement? I know (Jesus said so) He'd use the same measuring stick on me that I've always tried to use with others. IOW, use a very big yard stick to measure others 'cause the same yardstick will be used to measure you.