I guess I might be too accustomed to the idea of growth through confrontation, and it's not the first time I have noticed it being a liability. I guess part of the reasons for that are the way I have been educated (that is : strong parental criticism used to make me react in a better direction).
You've got a point.
But I don't believe that argument is a defence mechanism. It can bring great enlightenments and conclusions.
Also, not everyone is ready to actively listen to any kind of self-expression. There is often a threshold of quality to be crossed for most people to listen to what one has to say.
Does self-expression that no one wants to listen to enable us to grow as persons?
And besides that, even if self-expression was always benefiting to the person that expresses themselves, sometimes it can be very unenjoyable to the rest of the people, if not downright hurtful. Self-expression without taking into account the possible impact of what is expressed is not something that I would approve of.
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Thread: What's your religion?
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03-21-2010, 07:37 PM #591NiFiTeSe
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03-21-2010, 07:47 PM #592
Yes, self expression and active listening are both disciplines that can be practised.
And just as no one expects to become a Black Belt without practice, so we can't expect to achieve self expression and active listening without practice.
And of course there is a place for debate in the world. And our Parliament, just up the road, is one such place.
Your parents have taught you to criticize and to respond to criticizism. So now you can balance that by slowly learning self expression and active listening. And then think what a well rounded person you will be.
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03-22-2010, 12:04 AM #593
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As long as the conversion is done by an Orthodox rabbi, a convert is seen as fully Jewish, his past is irrelevant in that regard. Any children of the convert, if a woman, will be considered Jewish. Jewish identity is NOT related to race. It is about a covenant made with God (bringing the truth of God unto the goy (or nations), they are Chosen because they are to be a moral/spiritual light unto the nations). They are not an ethnic group, only a nation, or solely a religion... they are a People... this is a very complex subject, really... that's is the basic idea of it. The matter of being Jewish, while you can trace it genetically to certain groups of people, is ultimately a matter of the soul and spirit, not the body.
Again, yes, you would be considered a Jew, since there is not such thing as being "ethnically Jewish", but simply being Jewish. There are certain groups of Jews that are prevalent and reach back to even to Biblical times (Some in Africa and Yemen, etc) because that is were Judaism began with the Semitic people (descendants of Shem), but there are Jews of all ethnicity, especially because of diaspora... tying Judaism to race might lead you into dangerous territory...
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03-22-2010, 12:20 AM #594
This approach makes more sense to me. I guess I have misinterpreted what I percieved from the Jewish communities I have encountered.
But still I wonder. Do you think a Jewish person will feel more affinity with an atheistic Jew than with an atheistic gentile?
Also, would my father be considered Jewish or more Jewish than the average gentile, since his mother is born to a Jewish mother (true fact)? Considering that he has never been brought up in a Jewish tradition.NiFiTeSe
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03-22-2010, 12:33 AM #595
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I respectfully disagree with the previous poster. Judaism is of course a religion, but Jews also constitute a culture with an "ethnic identity" not unlike say, the members of
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jersey_Shore_(TV_series)
Secular Jewish culture - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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05-26-2010, 02:16 PM #596
Atheist Hindu
ps:
it goes without saying that i'm a secular humanist as wellExtraverted - 25 Introverted - 75
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07-24-2010, 01:38 AM #597
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07-24-2010, 06:18 AM #598
Truth, love, beauty.
Your kisses, sweeter than honey. But guess what, so is my money.
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07-24-2010, 11:08 AM #599
Agnostic Atheist.
“You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.” -Nietzsche
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07-24-2010, 11:19 AM #600
well I bet you all would never think you'd here the day when I'd tell you that..
I am Agnostic..