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06-19-2009, 06:25 PM #461
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06-19-2009, 06:25 PM #462
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I'm a Christian of the more liberal, gnostic variety. Technically I'm a registered Methodist, and that's partially because I find their church to be more accepting of different types of people than others, while still following a form of worship that I feel comfortable with.
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06-19-2009, 06:26 PM #463
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06-19-2009, 06:28 PM #464
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06-19-2009, 06:47 PM #465
Oh. I guess I meant that they're not followers of the organized Christianity. Mostly because I tend to forget that there's anything else that falls under the category of "religion."
The kind of religion you follow, that's more accepting of people of different types... that's a good example of how someone might try to hold onto parts of Christianity without embracing the entire oppressive, right-wing agenda of organized religion that most of it's followers embrace. I definitely respect that.
I just found it easier to decide religion probably wasn't for me, and that Christianity... well, I wasn't going to do anything that might indicate approval of their unfair right-wing agenda. Because I and several of my friends are people that would be personally affected by it if it came to pass.
It's really hard not to hate and fear Christians when I've observed their attempts to impose arbitrary right-wing values and morality on people via legislation. Live your own life the way you want, but don't tell me how to live mine... that was all I wanted, but they want to "compassionately" enforce compliance and punish noncompliance with their ideas. If they want to play that game, I don't have much choice but to undermine them wherever I can, because I can't abide that.
I suppose I'm not religious because to me, religion just seems like a tool of oppression, and it's going to take me a long time to ever open my mind enough to see it in any other light.
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06-19-2009, 06:53 PM #466SnifflesGuest
So Athenian, care to intrigue me in explaining where a Christian like Cardinal John Henry Newman would fall within your categorizing of believers?
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06-19-2009, 07:18 PM #468SnifflesGuest
Yeah really. Religions are not monoliths, and the variety one finds among religious people mirrors the variety found among people anywhere else.
Even if this claim is true, it still doesn't invalidate religious claims. It's more of an attempt to explain away religion rather than actually address its claims.
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06-19-2009, 07:20 PM #469
I don't think I'd consider him to be one of the Christians I'm looking for. He seems too open-minded and willing to change his mind about things, and even admits that without an internal conviction that not everyone has, it's quite reasonable for someone to be agnostic.
To be honest, I don't really know anything about Catholicism or other branches of Christianity. When I say "Christianity," I pretty much mean the Christians in the United States that are trying to impose their right-wing agenda on people like me, justifying their position only with quotes from the Bible. My fear and contempt for these particular people is the reason I go around saying how much I'm opposed to Christians. Looks like I need to define what I'm opposed to a little more precisely.
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06-19-2009, 07:23 PM #470SnifflesGuest
He was also a staunch critic of Liberal Christianity and a defender of tradition, hence why he converted to Catholicism.
To be honest, I don't really know anything about Catholicism or other branches of Christianity. When I say "Christianity," I pretty much mean the Christians in the United States that are trying to impose their right-wing agenda on people like me, justifying their position only with quotes from the Bible.