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    `~~Philosoflying~~` SillySapienne's Avatar
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    Life can be, and still is, quite beautiful *without* the existence of god.

    I get all warm and fuzzy just looking at, and thinking of, the sheer enormity and simplexity of the universe in which I live.

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    "That that is, is. That that is not, is not. Is that it? It is."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peguy View Post
    "Human beings must be known to be loved; but Divine beings must be loved to be known."
    --Blaise Pascal
    Is that the same Pascal of "Pascal's wager" ?

    I like what Thoreau supposedly said on his death bed. "Have you made your peace with God ?" he was asked, by some bedside ministering priest or parson. "I wasn't aware that we had ever quarreled" was Thoreau's answer.

    I was raised in a protestant household - Methodist and Lutheran and a sort of Episcopalian church - as a youngster. Got off into merging Meister Eckhart and Buddhism in college. Eventually just decided to call myself someone who was " 'spiritual' when I remember to be so".
    "The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them that they are being attacked and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."
    Reichsfuhrer Herman Goering at the Nuremburg trials.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainChick View Post
    Life can be, and still is, quite beautiful *without* the existence of god.

    I get all warm and fuzzy just looking at, and thinking of, the sheer enormity and simplexity of the universe in which I live.

    +1. Though I probably don't get as warm and fuzzy as you.

    Atheists care about things too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kuranes View Post
    Is that the same Pascal of "Pascal's wager" ?
    Yes of course it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    Atheists care about things too!
    Of course we do!!!

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    "A lie is a lie even if everyone believes it. The truth is the truth even if nobody believes it." - David Stevens

    "That that is, is. That that is not, is not. Is that it? It is."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peguy View Post
    "Human beings must be known to be loved; but Divine beings must be loved to be known."
    --Blaise Pascal
    you know, for such a math guy, he sure struggled with basic logic.

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    For me, the higher "being" is our planet. She is always present in my life and a source of inspiration. Before I became pagan, I was raised an atheist at home while attending Catholic school.

    As an atheist, I always felt something..I dunno, missing. Though I love the idea behind Catholicism, I was turned off by the institution of the Church and the way in which women are often perceived (I realize this isn't always the case for every catholic and I have several friends who are catholic whom I love). At the same time, I've always felt connected with the wild, untamed side of Nature, so it was kinda an obvious choice
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amargith View Post
    ... For me, the higher "being" is our planet. She is always present in my life and a source of inspiration... I've always felt connected with the wild, untamed side of Nature, so it was kinda an obvious choice
    Makes sense! Our planet is a living, breathing, and growing organism. It has the sense of touch,... Or should I say a sense of consciousness that it gets from the trees, rocks, and oceans through vibrations and frequencies generated by the universe. The planet resonates from these forms of "consciousness" like a bell, and since we have the ability to reflect what we observe, we get tuned into this consciousness. You can't get any more real then that.
    ... They say that knowledge is free, and to truly acquire wisdom always comes with a price... Well then,... That will be $10, please!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demigod View Post
    Makes sense! Our planet is a living, breathing, and growing organism. It has the sense of touch,... Or should I say a sense of consciousness that it gets from the trees, rocks, and oceans through vibrations and frequencies generated by the universe. The planet resonates from these forms of "consciousness" like a bell, and since we have the ability to reflect what we observe, we get tuned into this consciousness. You can't get any more real then that.
    Yeah I strongly agree. Gotta love Gaia, seriously. I like the Planet itself. I just don't like how some People treat it.
    Yeah but before I get TOO much OT...I really agree with Demigod and
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    Again, Demons I get, but people are just crazy.

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    I'm still wondering if I'm a Christian or not. The religious folks including priests say no, everyone else say yes.
    I don't find that so important. Atheist or Lutheran Christian, still an existentialist.

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