The Art of War?

[Nighthawk]

Well, more often than not, a woman cannot match male machismo, so in the company of gung ho young warriors she is most likely to keep a lower profile, even if she is normally assertive.

Under the proper circumstances, women make effective fighters - Soviets used female snipers with great success during WW2.

Yes, I can attest to the fact that the female attack helicopter pilots I met were pretty "business oriented" and ruthless. Stellar reflexes and no hesitation in using them.

Israel uses females in IDF, although they keep them away from infantry because male soldiers tend to make irrational decisions in protecting female soldiers on the battlefield (due to instincts), therefore making female/male infantry mix ineffective.

We studied this in military school. If I'm not mistaken, I believe it is still the primary reason keeping women out of infantry and armor branches in the US Army.

 

[Nighthawk]

A recent study was conducted in Texas university I believe, showing that estrogen has the same effect on competitiveness in women that testrogen has in men...

Very interesting. I guess we might be more "equal" than I originally imagined.

 

[Wild horses]

I am equal to you Nighthawk in every immeasurable way of course lol

 

[Nighthawk]

I am equal to you Nighthawk in every immeasurable way of course lol

Absolutely ... I never meant to suggest otherwise.

 

[Wild horses]

I know it was a j/k Just not a very good one I guess we're not equal after all

 

[Nighthawk]

I know it was a j/k Just not a very good one I guess we're not equal after all

Oh ... no worries ... I took it as such. I guess I just feel compelled to reply, being literal and ancient

 

[Wild horses]

Well no worries either you're just like me I have to reply but then thats just cos I'm ENFP and communication can NEVER be broken

 

[Nighthawk]

Well no worries either you're just like me I have to reply but then thats just cos I'm ENFP and communication can NEVER be broken

I hear you ... must be the abstract N thing going on there.

 

[Wild horses]

I hear you

But you're not allowed to, there must be no harmony between NT and NF given the present climate on the forum and the fact that we are posting this sweet little discourse on a thread entitled "The Art of War" is not gonna go down favourably. What is our angle gonna be Nighthawk, The art of war is 'Hearing' eachother?! COme on I'll get my story straight and you get yours

 

[Sniffles]

Von Clausewitz hit the nail on the head when he stated that war is simply politics by other means.

I'll return to this topic later, since it's been one that's interested me since I was a child.

Under the proper circumstances, women make effective fighters - Soviets used female snipers with great success during WW2.

Let's keep some things in mind. A million women served in the Red Army during WWII, and since total Soviet military strength reached a height of 12 million....well do the math. Yet out of that million, only a quarter million were ever trained to actually shoot....so again do the math.

 

[Nighthawk]

But you're not allowed to, there must be no harmony between NT and NF given the present climate on the forum and the fact that we are posting this sweet little discourse on a thread entitled "The Art of War" is not gonna go down favourably. What is our angle gonna be Nighthawk, The art of war is 'Hearing' eachother?! COme on I'll get my story straight and you get yours

Ah yes ... derailing is one of the unfortunate byproducts of my existence. As for harmony ... I'll pretty much always have that with NFs. Just a factor of my inferior Fe finally coming out after all these years.

Now back to warfighting!

 

[Sniffles]

In not so flippant terms ... testosterone.

When I was a soldier in my teens and 20's, I couldn't wait to practice my craft and test my mettle. I wanted to see if I could hang in combat. I had that opportunity in my late 20's and witnessed the horrors of armed conflict. It gave me cause to re-evaluate my dogmatic belief system. As I have aged and lost testosterone, I have found very few issues worthy of armed conflict. In a nutshell, I grow farther left every day. I honestly think war is often caused by some hyped up penis contest to determine who is the alpha male. Would be interesting to see what would happen if women ran the world.

I've never been in combat myself(army rejected me), but I can sympathise with these sentiments. I myself have re-evaluated my earlier attitudes towards warfare from my teenage years. Now I would say that I'm neither a pacifist nor a war-monger.

 

[Edgar]

Let's keep some things in mind. A million women served in the Red Army during WWII, and since total Soviet military strength reached a height of 12 million....well do the math. Yet out of that million, only a quarter million were ever trained to actually shoot....so again do the math.

Not sure what's the point you are tying to make.

Just because not all women in the Red Army were trained for actual combat, that does not negate the fact that the ones that were trained and participated in combat were effective.

There was also an issue of limited resources...

 

[Nillerz]

The Art of War is an absolutely stellar book.

War is caused for whatever reason seems appropriate. It is good as population control and some good ol' fashioned darwinism. Our species would be much weaker if we never war'd. That's just my input.

 

[Sniffles]

Von Clausewitz is certainly very good, if heavier reading. Even Machiavelli's Art of War is pretty interesting, at least Book One concerning the relationship between war and politics. He makes a convicing case for citizen soldiers as opposed profession ones.

I recently obtained an anthology containing excerpts of Antoine Henri de Jomini's Art of War as well.

 

[Edgar]

I also recommend Coup d'État: A Practical Handbook by Edward N. Luttwak

 

[yenom]

What is the undelyning philisophical motivation for war?


greed, envy, hate, lust, power? etc etc

Social darwinism. Killed or be killed.

 

[ColonelGadaafi]

The art of war is a good art. War and rivalry forces humanity to compete and fuels the struggle for eternal greatness.