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    Enlightenment. What does it mean for you?
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    A dedication to learning and in spite of hardship, synthesizing and pioneering information that may not have been connected or appear related before, and always holding the human condition - regardless of what others might argue or threaten - as paramount and something that is never to be sacrificed.

    Enlightenment is a verb, not a noun.
    It is our duty to create meaning.

    If only it were that simple.

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    Enlightenment in the religious sense of the word cannot be articulated in words. I don't think it can truly understood until one is there, and they will never be able to fully explain it to the unenlightened. Many will think they are enlightened or close to enlightenment, but most will never reach this state of being. Or non-being?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ısoprene View Post

    Enlightenment is a verb, not a noun.
    Аre you sure?

    noun
    1.
    the action of enlightening or the state of being enlightened.
    "Robbie looked to me for enlightenment"
    Similar:
    understanding
    insight
    education
    learning
    knowledge
    awareness
    information
    erudition
    wisdom
    instruction
    teaching
    illumination
    light
    edification
    awakening
    culture
    refinement
    cultivation
    civilization
    sophistication
    advancement
    development
    liberalism
    open-mindedness
    broad-mindedness
    an aha moment

    Аntonym:
    ignorance
    benightedness

    2.
    a European intellectual movement of the late 17th and 18th centuries emphasizing reason and individualism rather than tradition. It was heavily influenced by 17th-century philosophers such as Descartes, Locke, and Newton, and its prominent figures included Kant, Goethe, Voltaire, Rousseau, and Adam Smith.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norexan View Post
    Аre you sure?

    noun
    1.
    the action of enlightening or the state of being enlightened.
    "Robbie looked to me for enlightenment"
    Similar:
    understanding
    insight
    education
    learning
    knowledge
    awareness
    information
    erudition
    wisdom
    instruction
    teaching
    illumination
    light
    edification
    awakening
    culture
    refinement
    cultivation
    civilization
    sophistication
    advancement
    development
    liberalism
    open-mindedness
    broad-mindedness
    an aha moment

    Аntonym:
    ignorance
    benightedness

    2.
    a European intellectual movement of the late 17th and 18th centuries emphasizing reason and individualism rather than tradition. It was heavily influenced by 17th-century philosophers such as Descartes, Locke, and Newton, and its prominent figures included Kant, Goethe, Voltaire, Rousseau, and Adam Smith.
    He was trying to make a point in a less literal manner.
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    That depends in whoch way you mean it.
    Quote Originally Posted by ısoprene View Post
    A dedication to learning and in spite of hardship, synthesizing and pioneering information that may not have been connected or appear related before, and always holding the human condition - regardless of what others might argue or threaten - as paramount and something that is never to be sacrificed.

    Enlightenment is a verb, not a noun.
    Yeah, this is english version of “ Enlighten” ; to learn. But that’s not how how I took it.

    I hear “ enlightenment” and think of the Buddhist version

    I think any Zen monk would tell you it “Just is” and the idea of arguing it’s grammatical title would really only prove a complete misunderstanding the very concept of enlightenment.

    Quote Originally Posted by Officer Ed Powell View Post
    Enlightenment in the religious sense of the word cannot be articulated in words. I don't think it can truly understood until one is there, and they will never be able to fully explain it to the unenlightened. Many will think they are enlightened or close to enlightenment, but most will never reach this state of being. Or non-being?
    Nope, it’s just contentment and people reach it all the time. The common misunderstabding is that one can remain ‘in enlightenment’ but like any other state if mind/feeling, it exists in only moments.

    Trying to remain in a state of enlightenment entirely defeats the purpose of the idea itself.

    A practice to put one’s self in the mindset of enlightenment is a visual kaon, ( yes, you’ve heard of it) a classic example is the question
    “ What is the sound if one hand clapping?” It’s not supposed to have an answer, it is meant to be paradoxical and is helpful in meditation because it encourages us ‘escape the constraints of a rational mind’ and just exist-that is enlightenment.

    So it be said that enlightenment is absolutely “ being” and nothing else.
    “ Rise up and raise the iron roof off
    Now, Rise up and riot 'til the bomb drops
    Now, Rise up the time is right to sound off, so
    Rise with me, rise with me, rise with me (RISE UP!)”

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Cat View Post
    This is spirituality and philosophy. ( which is why I’m lead to believe the topic is about the Buddhist, and not the English/American version) the bonfire.
    “ Rise up and raise the iron roof off
    Now, Rise up and riot 'til the bomb drops
    Now, Rise up the time is right to sound off, so
    Rise with me, rise with me, rise with me (RISE UP!)”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuu View Post
    This is spirituality and philosophy. ( which is why I’m lead to believe the topic is about the Buddhist, and not the English/American version) the bonfire.
    okay? I have no problem with that? Ive been thinking about the question all morning, looking at it from both sides, how ive heard it used in both contexts. I kept having flashes of the GI Joe PSAs "What is enlightment?" "It is." "Now I know." And knowing is half the battle daniel san.
    I am The Cat; who walks by himself, and all places are alike to me...
    The Cat is a fey, mercurial thing, given to fits of pique, moody silences, and eerie displays.

    But it's just the price I pay
    Destiny is calling me
    Open up my eager eyes
    'Cause I'm Mr. Brightside...

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Cat View Post
    okay? I have no problem with that? Ive been thinking about the question all morning, looking at it from both sides, how ive heard it used in both contexts. I kept having flashes of the GI Joe PSAs "What is enlightment?" "It is." "Now I know." And knowing is half the battle daniel san.
    That does make a certain amount of sense. My Ni has failed me today.
    “ Rise up and raise the iron roof off
    Now, Rise up and riot 'til the bomb drops
    Now, Rise up the time is right to sound off, so
    Rise with me, rise with me, rise with me (RISE UP!)”
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