Is capitalism a religion?

[Lark]

There haven't been any Jewish presidents either. Yet. But with the changes Francis is considering, that might win back some center right libs.

I wonder why there hasnt been a Jewish president?

I'm not sure what changes Francis is considering, I hear all the time about changes in the RCC but it doesnt really change, at least never that much, its what its known for changing very little regardless of who is in charge. It means that it'll probably never be a liberation theology paradise but it'll never be a raging fascist one either. So its kind of a consolation.

 

[anticlimatic]

My post in this thread didn't attack people that believe in capitalism, such as yourself. Stick to what I wrote, not your own sensitivity.

I wasn't only referring to your post in this thread (though it's included in the net), but rather conjuring the general ceecee spirit of how to describe and interact with people and ideas I disagree with. Such as:

Neoliberalism is a political ass boil outgrowth of capitalism, and it's done more to destroy this world and everyone in it than any other religion could claim.

MAGA chuds

a fucking pig

Self-righteous noise of course. Dems are useless and can fuck off, GOP is a crime syndicate and need to be treated like one.

the morons in this administration

I never hear anyone tell people on the right to have a respectful conversation with a person on the left, don't be condescending or sanctimonious or simply a raging asshole. I wonder why this is. Is it simply a disability for someone on the right?

the GOP rats are getting off the boat

You know, that's not too bad for a single month. I think you're doing better overall.

 

[Jaguar]

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[Tellenbach]

Capitalism is just bartering using money instead of chickens and pies. I think of it as the best economic practices honed through decades of trial and error. Nations embrace capitalism because it works; it's lifted hundreds of millions out of poverty in China and India and it's the single greatest innovation since someone learned to make fire. The biggest difference between the capitalist and the socialist is we don't have to rely on blind faith. We rely on empirical evidence. We know exactly why capitalism works and why socialism does not work.

The socialist supports policies that have never worked, that have failed hundreds of times, that have resulted in tens of millions of deaths, and still they embrace it. They're blindly following some freakish ideology that came from some bum because it promises free stuff without work.

 

[ceecee]

I wasn't only referring to your post in this thread (though it's included in the net), but rather conjuring the general ceecee spirit of how to describe and interact with people and ideas I disagree with. Such as:















You know, that's not too bad for a single month. I think you're doing better overall.

Show me the lie. Not the stuff you just don't like.

I drag the Dems in there too - they deserve it. I noticed you have whittled down to only questioning liberals and their upbringing, the totalitarian left (lol) and oh, that you might feel marginalized but you aren't sure. And this..

Every other woman must willingly sign up for a life in STEM fields, and every other man must willingly sign up for a life in stay-at-home parenting or whatever. Until said goal is reached, Hollywood at least believes they can 'prime the pump' by producing fictions that match this vision despite nobody but outliers relating to them.

Don't know a single stay at home dad, one woman I know is in STEM field and if you take Hollywood that seriously that a real problem you have.

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

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Ah, a true believer.

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

Show me the lie. Not the stuff you just don't like.

I drag the Dems in there too - they deserve it. I noticed you have whittled down to only questioning liberals and their upbringing, the totalitarian left (lol) and oh, that you might feel marginalized but you aren't sure. And this..

It's fine when Trump does that because he's "telling it like it is" (which means I must be a real badass for surviving in a place worse than Afghanistan) but apparently people who voted for him are entitled to special levels of civility and respect that the rest of us don't deserve. Should I feel sorry for Trump supporters that they discovered that a byproduct of supporting an asshole is that people now think they're assholes? When people criticize the president or their "movement" then they start acting like the triggered libs they wanted people to think they were superior to.

 

[tinker683]

Not until Jamie Diamond drowns in a Scrooge McDuck Money Bin pile of gold as a blood offering to Ludwig von Mises to pay for the sins of Adam Smith

 

[meowington]

Definitely. I'm a believer.

How capitalism saved generations from crippling poverty

The middle class may have emerged from the poor, as the article points out, while conveniently leaving out the importance of worker unions, but it is definitely crumbling now.

 

[anticlimatic]

The middle class may have emerged from the poor, as the article points out, while conveniently leaving out the importance of worker unions, but it is definitely crumbling now.

Unions are a bit of a discussion point quagmire for me. They are very good to workers, but in an unsustainable way that requires an odd sort of political crony capitalism to remain subsidized. Still, they're an important division in the great invisible army that holds the nations taken-for-granted infrastructure together- though they're the only division in that army that votes left, and they only vote that way out of golden handcuffed obligation. Manufacturing unions don't stand a chance against automation due to the artificially inflated costs involved, but trade unions/private businesses are still- and IMO will always be- comfortably middle class. Although they take it for granted while it works, when people start losing electricity, running water, food, etc- they will pay whatever is necessary to get it back.

 

[Siúil a Rúin]

Yes, the so-called "religious Right" is a significant part of those who align with the Republican party politically, but that doesn't make the political perspective itself a religious one. There is also a significant "religious left", to use parallel terminology. These are the people who are motivated by Jesus' message of inclusion and caring for others to favor political action that provides a generous safety net for the disadvantaged, and protects minority rights/opportunities. These folks have so far not used religious justifications to support their political positions nearly as effectively as those on the right have, though the arguments are just as compelling, perhaps moreso.

Part of what I'm saying is that the theory behind a political position may not be a religion, but the way certain people or groups perceive, alter, and experience it could perhaps distort it into something like a religion. When people's mindsets for evaluating ideas are completely shaped by faith-based thinking, they might apply that to everything else, especially politics. It could be what gives that impression, even if the theory behind it as defined by the norm isn't a religion.

 

[anticlimatic]

Show me the lie. Not the stuff you just don't like.

Don't like? I love your juvenile choice of words. Makes everything else you say much easier to dismiss.

 

[ceecee]

Don't like? I love your juvenile choice of words. Makes everything else you say much easier to dismiss.

Well, I write for my audience, good to know it's having the desired effect.

 

[meowington]

trade unions/private businesses are still- and IMO will always be- comfortably middle class.

Statistics show middle class is crumbling for the past years, if not decades. I'm afraid, that's not really a matter of opinion, but a matter of fact.

 

[anticlimatic]

Statistics show middle class is crumbling for the past years, if not decades. I'm afraid, that's not really a matter of opinion, but a matter of fact.

Right, but I'm talking about middle class people in building trades, not middle class people who pushed buttons in factories for a living- the demographic that used to make up the bulk of the middle class. Automation and outsourcing can't touch EVERY American job market, but it can touch quite a few.

 

[anticlimatic]

Well, I write for my audience, good to know it's having the desired effect.

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

Part of what I'm saying is that the theory behind a political position may not be a religion, but the way certain people or groups perceive, alter, and experience it could perhaps distort it into something like a religion. When people's mindsets for evaluating ideas are completely shaped by faith-based thinking, they might apply that to everything else, especially politics. It could be what gives that impression, even if the theory behind it as defined by the norm isn't a religion.

It's as much of a religion as feminism or secular leftism.

 

[Lark]

It's as much of a religion as feminism or secular leftism.

I believe in a variety of religious socialism and its so awesome I cant talk about.

It'd just blow everyones minds.

 

[Norexan]

Defending a system which destroy thousands of people lives and leave thousands homeless to die on the street treating humans like cattle, the system which use human's weakness so the chosen ones can get profit so their meaningless life can have a purpose , the system which poison our ground and air because of profit, the system which cannot work unless one country must feed on smaller countries like a giant leaches. And you tell me that system is not a religion? Really?! You have to be a liar and deceiver or truth-loving leader but enough blind to support capitalism.

 

[Jaguar]

Capitalism is an economic system. In it the government plays a secondary role. People and companies make most of the decisions, and own most of the property. The means of production are largely or entirely privately owned (by individuals or companies) and operated for profit.

It's that simple, people.