Jordan Peterson: Occult Magician

[Peter Deadpan]

I'm a Freemason.

 

[Lark]

I'm a Freemason.

They have lady lodges?!

 

[SD45T-2]

I'm a Freemason.

You're just full of surprises.

They have lady lodges?!

Order of the Eastern Star?

 

[Pionart]

Jordan Peterson seems too rooted in the establishment, "it's the best we've got", being an apologist for the illuminati on the premise that those in power are in power because they're the best for the job, not because of any Satanic conspiracy or anything. That suggests either ignorance or deception. Though, honestly he seems more ignorant to me than deceptive.

As I mentioned to you, Justin, you've been promoting videos of people who strike me as being bad, but also ones that strike me as being good. Among Orthodox priests etc. there will be those who are very good and those who are very bad, and some in between though those sorts of positions tend to be polarising due to their nature of teaching the people about God's law.

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

Jordan Peterson seems too rooted in the establishment, "it's the best we've got", being an apologist for the illuminati on the premise that those in power are in power because they're the best for the job, not because of any Satanic conspiracy or anything. That suggests either ignorance or deception. Though, honestly he seems more ignorant to me than deceptive.

The illuminati sounds pretty badass, the way you guys tell it. All this time, I thought they were a short-lived product of the European enlightenment that fizzled out in the late 18th century. How do I join?

 

[Lark]

The illuminati sounds pretty badass, the way you guys tell it. All this time, I thought they were a short-lived product of the European enlightenment that fizzled out in the late 18th century. How do I join?

There was a scare about a bavarian illuminati in the US a very long time ago, then subsequently scares about jesuits, jews, communists, the target changes the nature of the scare doesnt.

There's also songs and stories about how conspiracy theory was used to mobilize the protestant population in ireland against their neighbours during the williamite wars. Its later than that and centred on england but Dickens wrote Barnaby Rudge specifically to spotlight how this sort of thing, on this occasion anti-RC prejudices, worked, the exact mechanics of it.

Increasingly its becoming the final play in a lot of politicians play books, to keep people interested in something they have otherwise gotten throughly tired of and disinterested in.

So while no one may be interested in defending to the last the privileges of privileged people because, simply, privilege (I kid you not that this was once upon a time a central plank of conservatism and a lot of people not sharing in the privilege without a hope in hell of ever doing so where roused to support it), work up a whole fantasy about a plot involving racist power struggles and all the other staples and all of a sudden you're back a the races once more.

 

[Lark]

Wow. You are just too precious.

Again, I dont know what your snark is about.

I'm betting its intended to amuse you and your little circle.

Carry on then.

 

[Lark]

Jordan Peterson seems too rooted in the establishment, "it's the best we've got", being an apologist for the illuminati on the premise that those in power are in power because they're the best for the job, not because of any Satanic conspiracy or anything. That suggests either ignorance or deception. Though, honestly he seems more ignorant to me than deceptive.

As I mentioned to you, Justin, you've been promoting videos of people who strike me as being bad, but also ones that strike me as being good. Among Orthodox priests etc. there will be those who are very good and those who are very bad, and some in between though those sorts of positions tend to be polarising due to their nature of teaching the people about God's law.

That's pretty orthodox conservatism you know.

Liberalism: clever individuals, Conservatism: clever elites, Socialism: clever class struggles, fascism: clever racist plotters etc.

That Conservatism could be an illuminati plot is a new tangent to me.

 

[Doctor Cringelord]

Are you an anti-Semite?

 

[Justin of Flavia Neapolis]

Since this topic seems to be the order of the day. For your enjoyment:

 

[Lark]

Are you an anti-Semite?

Who Jules? Justin? Me?

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Since this topic seems to be the order of the day. For your enjoyment:

If this is secret how does a YouTube exist?

 

[Doctor Cringelord]

Who Jules? Justin? Me?

Justin. This is the second time I've seen him make some reference to jews in one of his threads.

 

[Justin of Flavia Neapolis]

The running joke among Eastern Orthodox is: Leave it to the Germans to ruin everything throughout history.

Oh...Ze Germans...

Such a revolutionary spirit in those people.

 

[Justin of Flavia Neapolis]

Justin. This is the second time I've seen him make some reference to jews in one of his threads.

Could’ve just been to make a specific point. 🤔 Interpret it however you want.

(I’m anti anything that is anti-Christ)

 

[Lark]

Justin. This is the second time I've seen him make some reference to jews in one of his threads.

Yeah but I'm pretty sure he said something one time before about how ecclesiastical history of his church (which I think is Eastern Orthodox) was such that the jews where not really jews any longer and neither was Israel able to claim to be Israel as his church was instead now composed of the choosen people and the church was substitute for the land/state of Israel.

I've heard versions of it before, I'm not a fan, I dont think election or predestination are validated, or preserved in a changed "Universal/Inclusive" format, by the life and ministry of Jesus and emergence of Christianity. The exclusive, tribal, ethno-centric version of religion was challenged entirely by Jesus, there are some accounts that appear as though he accepted this but then departed from it but that's a whole hot bed of theological debate and disputation. All that said, I'm RC and not Eastern Orthodox, there's probably a reason

Who is the true whatever (in this case it would be jew/outsider) is an old trope too, I'm used to it from a long time ago when socialism and marxism were more popular and they had endless boring debates about who was truly working class and how it was qualified and all sorts of stuff like that, this kind of thing is so, so similar. Which makes me think that the facades or channels are less important than whatever is underlying it all and driving it. Dont know if its typology but it would be something that has the appearance of it.

 

[Justin of Flavia Neapolis]

All that said, I'm RC and not Eastern Orthodox, there's probably a reason .

The RCC also holds the doctrine that the Church is God's Israel now as the prophesy made by Christ in regards to the collapse of the Second Temple all but broke the Mosaic covenant. The Judaism of today is less Mosaic and more Talmudic, which is an invention by the Pharisee sect of the Middle Ages.

One of the main departures between our lineages is the Essence/Energies distinction in the East and Absolute Divine Simplicity in the West.

 

[Justin of Flavia Neapolis]

If this is secret how does a YouTube exist?

I'm assuming it's a "Secret" due to the fact that this sort of knowledge could only be accessed in great libraries or as "insider" gnostic-esque information in the past.

It's a "Secret" today because even with the internet the vast majority of people give in to their base natures and prefer cat-videos (don't get me wrong, I like cat-videos, too) and Fox News.

 

[Doctor Cringelord]

The RCC also holds the doctrine that the Church is God's Israel now as the prophesy made by Christ in regards to the collapse of the Second Temple all but broke the Mosaic covenant. The Judaism of today is less Mosaic and more Talmudic, which is an invention by the Pharisee sect of the Middle Ages.

One of the main departures between our lineages is the Essence/Energies distinction in the East and Absolute Divine Simplicity in the West.

Nitpicking about Judaism like that is dishonest. Most faiths have evolved and changed considerably since antiquity. Eastern Orthodoxy included.

Have you ever spent any time with jewish people? Just like any other group, good and bad people, saints and sinners. They're not some cabal of Satanists attempting to take over the world. Honestly, I'm far more nervous about the scientologists and fundamentalist evangelical Christians than I am about jews. There's even remnants of Jim Jones' acolytes left in California (not all of them went to Guyana with him). Worry about those guys, not some imagined Jewish conspiracy.

 

[Justin of Flavia Neapolis]

Nitpicking about Judaism like that is dishonest. Most faiths have evolved and changed considerably since antiquity. Eastern Orthodoxy included.

Have you ever spent any time with jewish people? Just like any other group, good and bad people, saints and sinners. They're not some cabal of Satanists attempting to take over the world. Honestly, I'm far more nervous about the scientologists and fundamentalist evangelical Christians than I am about jews.

The key to wisdom is admitting that you may not know as much as you fancy yourself to know.

-Abe Lincoln (or Socrates)

 

[Doctor Cringelord]

The key to wisdom is admitting that you may not know as much as you fancy yourself to know.

-Abe Lincoln (or Socrates)

It is a pleasure to be able to quote lines to fit any occasion... ~Abraham Lincoln

Next to the originator of a good sentence is the first quoter of it. I hate quotations. Tell me what you know. ~Ralph Waldo Emerson

He wrapped himself in quotations- as a beggar would enfold himself in the purple of Emperors. ~Rudyard Kipling