Justin of Flavia Neapolis
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The future is now, old man.
We are closer to this that people think, the data they are collecting from our pulses , heart rate, search engines etc.. they are working don't you ever think they are doing NOTHING will all this information when in a time information is power.. everyone is gathering in order to use it in a way to have control.
privacy is dead
I agree there is a lot of junk but I also think that we are not aware of what they are harvesting and why they are harvesting it.If this where true though, if surveillance was as total and perfect as a lot of people tend to make out then there would be no crime that goes undetected (if not unpunished), there'd be no information problems in the economy and perfect competition, allocative efficiency and true post-scarcity would be the norm but they arent. So while it could be true that greater and greater information and data is being farmed, harvested, produced I think there's way more junk than anything else.
The next 10-15 years are going to be the equivalent of the dark ages in my opinion we are going to witness some set backs and some trials and then the new rebirth will occur our technology renaissance will occur
I agree there is a lot of junk but I also think that we are not aware of what they are harvesting and why they are harvesting it.
So because we don't have all the information our scope of understanding is very limited.
The next 10-15 years are going to be the equivalent of the dark ages in my opinion we are going to witness some set backs and some trials and then the new rebirth will occur our technology renaissance will occur
This presumes that democracy will triumph over totalitarian ideologies on the global stage ... and that is very questionable idea at this point.
I think democracy will definitely prevail at least the ritual or sport of democracy, its a pretty pale imitation of what it was conceived as being in the first place already, more like reality TV than anything its founders imagined.
Demagogery rather than totalitarianism to be honest, or at best perhaps technocracy, which is pretty likely.
There's a lot of good books on how limited democracy actual is in practice and whether this is a good idea or not, Schumpeter was a major conservative advocate of democracy as a limited kind of elite sport or contest, probably the best book I read on it was Participation and Democratic Theory. Its a classic now, I managed to get an old torn cover ex-library copy.
The problem is that democracy and normal life can't survive when access to information is tainted and manipulated. However in that regard the world is falling apart.
This came out recently.
In a way with this you don't even need mind reading technologies. Since you can just install "the proper" mindset and misinformation into people. Especially when it comes to their early years.
But that is a topic for some other thread.
First of all totalitarian system disguised as a democracy is still a totalitarian system. So for me these aren't really two separate concepts since the bottom line is deficit of democracy. How exactly will that be put in practice is secondary question basically.
However even with that in the mix I am actually placing bets on totalitarian future: democracy is melting away across the world, basically all major democracies in this world are in huge debts and they are outsourcing concrete industry/production of goods 24/7 (many even have serious demographic problems), pilled up environmental problems will surely create more drama and dystopia through less options, next world super-power seem to be the country that doesn't even officially have the instrument of elections, a new number of regions and countries are facing social collapse upon those that already are there, military robots are reality for quite some time now and they are getting more sophisticated .... and all of that will chip away the democracy (aka normal life). Which was always vulnerable to "permanent crisis".
As someone said: Dammit people, 1984. was a warning not the instructions manual !
Ha! ROI is supposed to be fine, shows what they know.
I agree with you BTW.
Most of the research done by behaviourists like BF Skinner was exploited by the ad industry and governments, psychologists were writing about this a long time ago with books like The Hidden Persuaders talking about it, subliminal messaging what the moral panic back then.
People are skeptical about all the wrong things, like the people think they are better informed than others are often the ones more heavily invested in some fabricated message put out by someone.
Yes, people have their mouth full of conspiracy theories but they ignore the obvious ones, like the one presented in that map. I mean that map is surely much more correct than wrong at this point and it didn't come from nowhere. Someone made things to be like that.
Regarding ROI - actually no. The green countries at this point make barely 2% of the world's population. Plus even if you add yellow "Satisfactory situation" into the mix you shouldn't get more than 10%. What means that democracy, freedom of speech and right to information is getting outnumbered and outgunned in the from of numbers, guns and economy. Not to mention that it is hard to do good and detailed reporting on a country/region that is hiding and twisting all the data about itself. Plus this is a trend, maybe in a few years ROI will not be green anymore, after all this is I think first year that US is downgraded to orange.
So more and more people are being feed with BS and education is getting worse and worse in the terms critical thinking ... and that can crash democracy to the point that it doesn't even formally exists anymore. Therefore this may actually be the trend that defines into what 21th century will turn out in the end. You can be critical thinker as much as you like but without proper information this doesn't mean anything.
This presumes that democracy will triumph over totalitarian ideologies on the global stage ... and that is very questionable idea at this point.
I hope and believe autocratic ideologies will make a come back on the global stage.
I hope and believe autocratic ideologies will make a come back on the global stage.