Karl Marx Hated Jews?

[Norexan]

Imagine a modern U.S. political figure said that. I don't really think his statements are defensible outside of perhaps historical context.

After WW2 anything can be antisemitism.

 

[Jaguar]

Imagine a modern U.S. political figure said that. I don't really think his statements are defensible outside of perhaps historical context.

If you had posted that in a blog, I would have answered. As it stands, your comment encourages people to engage in political discussion and they might not be aware of this:

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[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

If you had posted that in a blog, I would have answered. As it stands, your comment encourages people to engage in political discussion and they might not be aware of this:

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Fair enough.

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

After WW2 anything can be antisemitism.

What do you mean by that?

 

[ceecee]

What do you mean by that?

You haven't noticed the things being labeled anti-semitic that completely are not? Such as criticism of the Israeli lobby, the Israeli government or any support or the BDS movement?

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

You haven't noticed the things being labeled anti-semitic that completely are not? Such as criticism of the Israeli lobby, the Israeli government or any support or the BDS movement?

I wanted to know what he meant by that. I can see a few different meanings behind that statement, and I don't presume to know which one he intended.

I do know that bringing up Israel is entirely irrelevant to examining a quote by someone who died before Israel or even Zionism existed. Perhaps Marx had valid criticisms of capitalism ( I haven't read enough of him to really be sure either way), but that wouldn't mean that the quote is defensible, even if you think Marx said other things that are valid. It wouldn't have looked out of place in Mein Kampf. In parallel to the situation with criticism of Israel, at the same time, it's also disingenuous to call real antisemitism mere "anti-Zionism", especially if it's in cases where Israel has nothing to do with the topic.

Such as in the case of Marx, who said that at a time when Zionism wasn't even a thing. Maybe those kinds of attitudes that Marx expressed had something to do with Zionism becoming more popular and the state of Israel being founded? Just a thought .