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Cardinal George Pell, senior Cardinal in the Vatican, has.been convicted of the criminal offence of raping altar boys.

Tens of thousands of Catholic children have been raped by Priests and Brothers.
 

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The birds are cool, though. And they hang around in the winter. [MENTION=3325]Mole[/MENTION] wouldn't know because he doesn't have them in Straya. Although he does have wild budgies, which I suppose makes up for it.

Perhaps it is now time to ask practising Catholics, why they remained so silent in the face of such criminal evil.
 

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Perhaps it is now time to ask practising Catholics, why they remained so silent in the face of such criminal evil.
Didn't Stanley Milgram already answer that one?
 

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We have crossed the Ribcon. Our Criminal Courts have taken the side of abused children against powerful men.

And we must choose ourselves.

We see Conservatives take the side of the convicted criminal abuser, just as we take the side of the psychotic abuser, Carl Jung.
 

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Rome Has Spoken and Rome Is Finished: The Vatican's Sexual Abuse Summit 'Failed Miserably' - Rewire.News - Religion Dispatches

The recently concluded Vatican summit on sexual abuse in the church was framed in the same old top-down way that's at the heart of the problem. Lay people, both women and men, experts in the law, psychology, and theology were excluded. What could be more wrong with this picture?

It's not just the Catholic Church. There was a recent expose on Southern Baptists pulling the same crap of transferring / not monitoring leaders accused of sexual abuse/assault and just having them slide around.
 

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Rome Has Spoken and Rome Is Finished: The Vatican's Sexual Abuse Summit 'Failed Miserably' - Rewire.News - Religion Dispatches



It's not just the Catholic Church. There was a recent expose on Southern Baptists pulling the same crap of transferring / not monitoring leaders accused of sexual abuse/assault and just having them slide around.

Yep. But I don't think these are isolated - I think there is abuse present in nearly all religions as, the basis of religion is to obey...something. And there are parents so brainwashed that they actively allow abuse or place their religion above the wellbeing of their children.
 

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Yep. But I don't think these are isolated - I think there is abuse present in nearly all religions as, the basis of religion is to obey...something. And there are parents so brainwashed that they actively allow abuse or place their religion above the wellbeing of their children.

Yes, it can totally happen in any religious tradition with the same kind of setup (authoritarian levels of structure, too much trust/power in leadership, image-based living, strict strictures of righteousness, guilt-based faiths, etc.). These just happen to be the two largest and most obvious in the United States, other areas of the world would highlight other faiths with similar issues. If you can't question leadership or the faith tenets, it makes those without power in the faith even more vulnerable.
 

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We have crossed the Rubicon in our long struggle to ensure all children are raised with love and care rather than sexual abuse.

And we remember what happened to Julius Caesar after he crossed the Rubicon. The same will happen here

Our guru Carl Jung was raised without love and care and himself became an abuser, and he is a magnet for those who are abusers.

Abusers have repressed the pain of their abuse and come here to abuse others.

So beware the Ides of March..
 

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The Judge said the Cardinal is unrepentant and without insight into his own psyche.

And it is true abusers don't recognise themselves as abusers. This enables them to do enormous damage to others without feeling any guilt.

And this is true for most of us - we don't recognise our own neurosis and continue to damage others. And we are drawn to other neurotics to normalise our neurosis.
 

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Now a convicted criminal for child sexual abuse, the Cardinal is now being sued in Civil Court for damages. This contrasts with our abusing guru Carl Jung who wasn't charged before the Nuremberg War Crimes Tribunal, nor was Jung charged before a Criminal Court, nor were damages sought from Jung before the Civil Court.
 

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A fish rots from the head down and now we see the rotting head of Roman Catholicism in Australia, Cardinal Pell, rotting in jail.


The rest of the Roman Catholic fish is rotting as well - sweet altar boys are now forbidden from serving on the altar with priests. Altar boys have served on the altar with priests for centuries, but now it is no longer safe for altar boys, with bottoms like peaches, to serve on the altar with Roman Catholic priests.
 

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A fish rots from the head down and now we see the rotting head of Roman Catholicism in Australia, Cardinal Pell, rotting in jail.


The rest of the Roman Catholic fish is rotting as well - sweet altar boys are now forbidden from serving on the altar with priests. Altar boys have served on the altar with priests for centuries, but now it is no longer safe for altar boys, with bottoms like peaches, to serve on the altar with Roman Catholic priests.

“Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and has become a dwelling place of demons, a prison for every foul spirit, and a cage for every unclean and hated bird! 3 For all the nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth have become rich through the abundance of her luxury.” Rev 18
 

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“Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and has become a dwelling place of demons, a prison for every foul spirit, and a cage for every unclean and hated bird! 3 For all the nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth have become rich through the abundance of her luxury.” Rev 18

For decade, after decade, after decade, the Church has told us child sexual abuse is a sin rather than a crime. The Church has told us child sexual abuse is a religious matter rather than a criminal matter, and the important thing was to preserve the reputation of the Church.

But after 70 years struggle we have the head of the Church in Australia, who is also Treasurer to the Vatican, and number three in the Vatican hierarchy, convicted of child sexual abuse, a crime not only against the State of Australia, but a crime against children.
 

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For decade, after decade, after decade, the Church has told us child sexual abuse is a sin rather than a crime. The Church has told us child sexual abuse is a religious matter rather than a criminal matter, and the important thing was to preserve the reputation of the Church.

But after 70 years struggle we have the head of the Church in Australia, who is also Treasurer to the Vatican, and number three in the Vatican hierarchy, convicted of child sexual abuse, a crime not only against the State of Australia, but a crime against children.

"It will be well for the reader to understand that the church of Rome with its sixteen centuries of intrigue, plans fifty or a hundred years ahead. The ultimate goal is to throw the lever of time back by restoring the Pope as the "universal arbiter" from whom all the rulers of the earth must receive their authority to rule, as during the Dark Ages."~ The Supressed Truth About the Assassination of Abraham Lincoln
 

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"It will be well for the reader to understand that the church of Rome with its sixteen centuries of intrigue, plans fifty or a hundred years ahead. The ultimate goal is to throw the lever of time back by restoring the Pope as the "universal arbiter" from whom all the rulers of the earth must receive their authority to rule, as during the Dark Ages."~ The Supressed Truth About the Assassination of Abraham Lincoln

God help me for defending the Church of Rome, but the above is black hearted religious prejudice. And it is untrue, it is a lie.

In fact the Church of Rome has embraced the Western Enlightenment of the 17th century, and the official dogma is Faith and Reason. For example the Church of Rome accepts the facts of biology, called Natural Selection or Evolution. And the Church of Rome actually practises the doctrine of the Separation of Church and State.

By contrast Islam rejects the Western Enlightenment, and rejects the separation of Mosque and State.
 
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