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    Quote Originally Posted by ygolo
    Agreed. These "types" are different from the sorted types of the traditional MBTI. But what do you make of the fact that their naive clustering attempts first lead to 16 clusters?
    The appearance of the number 16 is an interesting coincidence, but given that Big 5 includes an additional dichotomy (neuroticism) it couldn't be due to the fact that there are 16 cognitive types, although it might relate to 8 dominant functions divided according to neuroticism.

    It could just be an unrelated coincidence which may have manifested due to the symmetry of the number 16.

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    Here's my hypothesis about the 4 clusters mentioned in the article:

    These types relate to how society is constructed.

    Average and Self-centred types are primarily consumers. Average are focused on the media, discussing celebrities etc. whereas Self-centred types are more focused on physical pleasure.

    Reserved types are the dutiful types who study and work, keeping more to themselves.

    Role-models are the opinionated types who discuss politics, morality, society etc. and are often liberal. Ideas focused but moreso the ideas which society promotes through the media.

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    Now, let's link that to the needs of a human.

    A person needs to eat and enjoy life, they need to be social, they need to be productive, and they need some governing belief system.

    There are other ways to model a person, but that's the model I derive from the clusters.

    (This could be linked to cognitive functions but the corresponding dichotomies don't correlate nicely with what the functions would seem to be.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julius_Van_Der_Beak View Post
    but i thought separating people into personality types was unscientific because people don't fit into the boxes.

    According to that 538 test, my strongest trait was Openness to New Experiences. I believe I'm average in extraversion, concietiousness, agreeableness, and neuroticism (well, this one might be low, I can't remember. ) So, I don't fit into any of those types. Therefore, the model is invalid, because it's a fact that at least some people don't fit.



    Regarding self-centered vs. role models, while it's possible that people can lie, I don't think it makes sense to conclude that people like that are rare to the extent that the majority of the people who got that must be lying.
    I took the 538 test as well. High Openness and my other scores don't fit any of the 4 types at the site in the OP. Are they really so blind they can't see other possible combinations? Ridiculous.
    Toto, I have a feeling we're not in Kansas anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    I took the 538 test as well. High Openness and my other scores don't fit any of the 4 types at the site in the OP. Are they really so blind they can't see other possible combinations? Ridiculous.
    ...I don't think you quite understand what "cluster" means.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    ...I don't think you quite understand what "cluster" means.
    I don't think you understand much of anything I post, so you're wasting my time. Again. Go work on your ESFJ/INFJ dilemma. That'll keep you busy.
    Toto, I have a feeling we're not in Kansas anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    I don't think you understand much of anything I post, so you're wasting my time. Again. Go work on your ESFJ/INFJ dilemma. That'll keep you busy.
    Imagine a chart with a cluster but with outliers. The four personality types evidence clusters of the general population. You and likely the vast majority of TypoC members, including me, are outliers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bechimo View Post
    Imagine a chart with a cluster but with outliers. The four personality types evidence clusters of the general population. You and likely the vast majority of TypoC members, including me, are outliers.
    Thanks, dear. I already knew that.
    Toto, I have a feeling we're not in Kansas anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    I took the 538 test as well. High Openness and my other scores don't fit any of the 4 types at the site in the OP. Are they really so blind they can't see other possible combinations? Ridiculous.
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    Thanks, dear. I already knew that.
    No. You presumed that there were only four types where instead, there are four clusters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bechimo View Post
    No. You presumed that there were only four types where instead, there are four clusters.
    I do not care whatsoever. Will the stalking begin again, or what? I've enjoyed the peace and quiet.
    Toto, I have a feeling we're not in Kansas anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    I do not care whatsoever. Will the stalking begin again, or what?

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