I see you've grown in your understandings a bit since the last time we interacted on PerC (the bold).
No, I realized there are people out there that actually require me to spell this out for them lest they take everything too literally and attempt to begin debates over semantics and trivialities that are completely removed from the point I'm trying to make (see: anyone that needs you to say "imo" at the end of anything you post).
Same kinds of people that require an "lol" at the end of a joke in order to actually understand the preceding words were indeed intended as "a joke", I presume.
There are literally people out there that don't understand what you've bolded
is a given and need their hand to be held, or else they can't proceed with the conversation, they get stuck in a loop ie, "nothings objective nothings objective nothings objective nothings objective nothings objective nothings objective" - I understand these folk require a little
additional assistance.
Yeah, I don't do YT videos and stuff, not really comfortable with it. Any other method besides video?
Could just do it with a written thread, but it's not really the same thing - it's tougher to pick out demons and saviors - and these are important because you can literally and physically see people shift states - I'll show you, because these are things you can actually track and produce consistent typings with other people in double-blind situations:
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At about 35 or so seconds in, Phil DeFranco shifts into a demon state - he edits a fair bit, but this is an example - when he shifts into this other character of sorts and says "not to infect minds with my way because my way is the highway" - this is indicative of a demon state - puts on a different persona, literally changes his position, waves his hand in the air - this is clearly representing something he
doesn't like, because it's representing his demon Si.
I believe from a Jungian perspective this would likely be along the lines of "complexes".
The Savior requires more "zooming out", because we do our Savior things so naturally we just about don't realize we're actually doing them - with Phil DeFranco, that's his Ne - he has about infinite vids on YT whereby he is basically "changing the channel" abruptly - ie going from one news story to something completely different and unrelated, understandably that's how the news works but Phil barely even segues, it's just bang, something totally different.
He's also always, naturally, providing as many sides of the stories as he can before chiming in with his own opinion (if he does) and with this, he has a pretty obvious "S supporting N" format in that, he provides as many facts as he can (quickly) and then shifts into his main point which is just to help people understand "what's going on?", so his mind isn't focused on the actual facts themselves, it's focused on understandings.
This is constant, you can look up basically any video of him from like the last decade or however long, and get the same thing from him, all the time - Savior Ne - it's so ridiculously natural to Phil that it's basically found in everything he does.
Another example of a Savior - take Casey Neistat - he creates films etc on YT, and if you watch his videos, you'd probably 'guess' some kind of xSxP type - but, that's just what he wants you to see, the things he finds interesting and fascinating, "real" Casey is hardcore Ni - check out this video:
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Everything is organized into categories for whatever purposes (this also reflects him attempting to fight Se demons in the form of "chaos" - something he doesn't always succeed at, see: taking his family to the
wrong airport) and his entire studio is basically some kind of Ni 'vision' that's created to ensure he doesn't have to spend much energy on anything - this demonstrates his two true preferences are Ni and Ti - Ni in the form of his visions and abstract concepts etc (see: many of his videos, he's making
points that aren't explicit, communicating a message) and his Ti in that he has it all sorted out to work for
himself, Casey isn't the worlds biggest team-player (says as much) and so both his Observer is introverted (Ni), as is his Decider (Ti) - this breaks many current internet-MBTI rules (I haven't gone in-depth here at all, apologies for the gaps).
I'll go more in-depth when I've got time to piece together my understanding of it, with specific examples of everything I'm saying so there's nothing that's not clear, but you can literally see these things, so you can actually track them and type people the same as others, consistently.
Nah...jk.
