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Social styles self test

Poki

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Dec 4, 2008
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10,436
MBTI Type
STP
Instinctual Variant
sx/so
2.9 assertiveness
2.9 sociability

EXPRESSIVE
(Intuitive)






I don't get why 'analytical' people need to be weaklings.
I mean if you get low assertiveness and low sociability that makes you analytical?


But if you can actually defend your opinions then that makes you some kind of emotional 'intuitive' who becomes crazy when upset in conflict?

yeah... I don't think so. I'm assertive in conversations because I usually know what I'm talking about. And I know alot about alot of things, so I'm generally confident in my statements. If proven wrong I correct and grow. That doesn't mean I have to be hugging my knees and timidly stating my thoughts or being passive aggressive about it.


I think the '4' classes are just not enough to describe humans.
I mean hell, MBTI has 16 and you would probably get better accuracy in testing if you double or quadrupled it.

I agree completely, I had a manager get emotionally pushy with me on aN issue I was looking into. I responded, u want the code, put someone else on it. He backed down fast and apologized and explained why he got all emotionally pushy. He knows I am the quickest and best on my team. He has never challenged me again like that. He not only know I am the best on our team, but have outdone the "experts" from other companies on those companies systems. When troubleshooting integration points.
 

EcK

The Memes Justify the End
Joined
Nov 21, 2008
Messages
7,707
MBTI Type
ENTP
Enneagram
738
I agree completely, I had a manager get emotionally pushy with me on aN issue I was looking into. I responded, u want the code, put someone else on it. He backed down fast and apologized and explained why he got all emotionally pushy. He knows I am the quickest and best on my team. He has never challenged me again like that. He not only know I am the best on our team, but have outdone the "experts" from other companies on those companies systems. When troubleshooting integration points.

One thing I liked about this test though is that it was very 'rough' on the 'negatives'. That's something they should keep as such otherwise people agree for the sake of ego. I don't trust 'feel good' description. I and everyone has 'pros' and 'cons'. I'm aware of my cons, I think it's part of personal development. I'm also aware of how the human brain works and that we are biased when it comes to believing data that 'pets our ego'.

I disagree for the sake of accuracy. The test could describe 4 to 8 'mbti' types roughly. And the MBTI is bad at describing 'borderline' types already. (ie: people who test two different types should probably not use the MBTI, I use it because the descriptions fit me almost exactly AND I never tested as anything else. Even on 'vague' tests because I'm just naturally a good fit for the 'ENTP' category.

I can't imagine your average capable high-testosteron ISTP male as a passive aggressive 'intellectual'. They are generally competent specialists who know what the fuck they are talking about. And one of the few people I can learn something from if I shut up and listen. I love learning from specialists.

Your example is a good one, and in general the ISTPs I know don't fit the 'intellectual' category. My sister is an ISTPs, she's rather assertive (though women are generally less assertive than men due to testosteron - it's not sexist, it's biology), she's freaking good at what she does, she's outgoing and actually MORE sociable than I (I'm an extrovert in the MBTI sense, I do however spend alot of time alone, it's just that I constantly need to be stimulated or my brain dies, which is WHAT extroversion is 'brain-wise' - ie: based on the brain's 'resting state' - I can expand on it if you're interested)
 

Poki

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One thing I liked about this test though is that it was very 'rough' on the 'negatives'. That's something they should keep as such otherwise people disagree for the sake of ego.

I disagree for the sake of accuracy. The test could describe 4 to 8 'mbti' types roughly. And the MBTI is bad at describing 'borderline' types already. (ie: people who test two different types should probably not use the MBTI, I use it because the descriptions fit me almost exactly AND I never tested as anything else. Even on 'vague' tests because I'm just naturally a good fit for the 'ENTP' category.

I can't imagine your average capable high-testosteron ISTP male as a passive aggressive 'intellectual'. They are generally competent specialists who know what the fuck they are talking about. And one of the few people I can learn something from if I shut up and listen. I love learning from specialists.

Your example is a good one, and in general the ISTPs I know don't fit the 'intellectual' category. My sister is an ISTPs, she's rather assertive (though women are generally less assertive than men due to testosteron - it's not sexist, it's biology), she's freaking good at what she does, she's outgoing and actually MORE sociable than I (I'm an extrovert in the MBTI sense, I do however spend alot of time alone, it's just that I constantly need to be stimulated or my brain dies, which is WHAT extroversion is 'brain-wise' - ie: based on the brain's 'resting state' - I can expand on it if you're interested)

Mine is always going, I more have to control what's in front of me in an attempt to control it. When I get pretty and want out of my head in the past I woud push myself to the limits physically in regard to speed. We are talking 130+ MPh due to the amount of focus to do that on street along with enjoy I escape from my head forcefully and it becomes fixated on my driving. At that point it's like a dance with everything around me. I can do it anytime, but when I am stuck in my head it's the only way I can escape., why i refuse to buy a motorcycle since I have to kids. Working hard to find a new way. Last time I reached out to a friend and just talked with her. Doesn't happen much, but when it does I don't care what happens I want out of my head. I don't fear death wheN I do it which is the bad thing. Close calls just mean focus more, there is no emotions other then the ones my head are driving me nuts withave that I wanna escape.

Aside from my worst I am learning I have to just put myself out there and my brain will lock in and go. People actually use me all the time as a consultant...even to the point where people come up to me at work and say...I need your brain power.

Update: yeah, more info would be good on the extroversion and introversion you are talking about.
 

noyo

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DRIVER: Low responsiveness, high assertiveness
Drivers are task orientated and expect efficiency from everyone they come into contact with.
Little emphasis is placed on building relationships with other people. They can be perceived as
aggressive and uncaring, especially by amiables, though are often needed to take risks and push
things through. In conflict, they will try to " steam roller " over anyone who comes in their way.

Summary:

Characteristics: Task orientated, clearly defined goals, committed, determined, risk takers,
efficient.

In conflict: Aggressive, rude, abrupt,

Solutions: Be assertive and firm, have a solution to the problem, listen.

Basic Need: To be in control
 

Lexicon

Temporal Mechanic
Staff member
Joined
Sep 28, 2008
Messages
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MBTI Type
JINX
Enneagram
5w6
Instinctual Variant
sp/sx
Assertiveness 2.0
Responsiveness 2.4

So, Analytical, but near Amiable.

I could see a mixed handful of the traits listed on either one as applicable to my personality. I don't relate to "Weak in goal setting and self direction" /
"Seeks security and identification with a group" in the Amiable area, though. On the Analytical end, while I do "like organization & structure," it's only to a certain degree in specific situations. I prefer to create my own [potentially adaptable] structure, if that makes sense. And I'm not really much of a "technical specialist." And while I am pretty reserved, I don't completely "dislike involvement." I'm extremely careful with who & how much of my energy I can really dedicate to that - possibly because empathizing comes a bit too easily, which can be taxing - and something I can't always shut off.

I don't fully relate to the descriptions for conflict styles of Amiable/Analytical. In conflict, I don't "lack conviction or avoid a problem." I have an intense need to connect with the person & resolve the issue (if I care about them). Drawing shit out through avoidance or not standing up for myself just eats away at me. If I don't give a damn about the person/relationship, I simply disengage, which could probably be construed as avoidance or unresponsiveness. The solution for the Amiable type "reassure/support/confirm commitment" is definitely helpful to me in a conflict with someone I care for. PTSD issues tend to trigger some intense fear responses in conflict situations with intimates.


The Analytical description for conflict style applies to me as far as "being negative" goes, if my panic is triggered. This usually results in a need for me to step away from the discussion to calm down. The "use of sarcasm" is toxic in a conflict with someone you care for, and I can't bring myself to use words as a weapon to stab at loved ones, so I don't relate to that. "Whining" is just.. disgusting.. I couldn't tolerate that in a conflict, in myself or others. In fact, I can't tolerate whining in any situation. The solution for Analytical is somewhat applicable. Emotional reassurance combined with "keeping to facts" when taking apart a problem is ideal.Keeping fact & opinion very distinct in the discussion reduces a lot of anxiety for me. Also, in conflict situations, discussing objective facts about the issue tends to offer me reassurance that this person is capable of stepping outside of the situation & looking at it with me from many angles, which decreases the likelihood of them flipping the fuck out on me/making me feel unsafe (usually emotionally) in some way. Listening attentively without just nodding/placating offers me the assurance that you're present with me in the situation.



Overall, it works, I guess. I'm like a fluffy analytical, or something.

:shrug:
 
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ir_rational

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Jan 27, 2014
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MBTI Type
INFP
Enneagram
4w3
Instinctual Variant
sx
My results:

Sociability scale - 1.3 (low assertiveness, asking)

Dominance scale - 3.1 (high responsive, emotional)

My quadrant:
amiable/feeling quadrant, somewhat close to the expressive/intuitive quadrant.
 

Proctor

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MBTI Type
INTJ
Right in the middle on both.

I hope that means I'm balanced, rather than boring.
 

Kas

Fabula rasa
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No suprises.
It's pretty true (mainly bolded) besides of the last paragraph.

AMIABLE:
( High Responsiveness, Low Assertiveness )

The amiable person likes other people's company, though is more of a listener than a talker. Expressive people find them useful, because they are prepared to listen to what they are saying. They are loyal, personable and show patience when dealing with other people.

They may however not be perceived as people " who get things done " because they spend more time developing relationships with others. They are also unlikely to take risks as they need to have the feeling of security.

In difficult situations, they are likely to avoid the situation and lack conviction of their feelings and if pushed likely to make promises that they cannot keep. Drivers often find them frustrating because they want a straight answer and the amiable can find this difficult to deliver.
 

cascadeco

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INFJ
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9w1
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sp/sx
I got amiable, though not super extreme, I was sort of close to the center. But yeah, it fits me best of the four. Though they're pretty huge categories.
 

lovelylili

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Messages
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MBTI Type
INFP
Enneagram
4
Instinctual Variant
sx
AMIABLE: ( High Responsiveness, Low Assertiveness )

The amiable person likes other people's company, though is more of a listener than a talker. Expressive people find them useful, because they are prepared to listen to what they are saying. They are loyal, personable and show patience when dealing with other people.
They may however not be perceived as people " who get things done " because they spend more time developing relationships with others. They are also unlikely to take risks as they need to have the feeling of security.
In difficult situations, they are likely to avoid the situation and lack conviction of their feelings and if pushed likely to make promises that they cannot keep. Drivers often find them frustrating because they want a straight answer and the amiable can find this difficult to deliver.
Summary:
Characteristics: Loyal, personable, patient, Uncomfortable with risk, Non-Confrontational,
Dislike pressure, Enjoy the company of others.
In conflict: Likely to be " passive", lack conviction, avoidance, Solution: Reassure, Support, Confirm commitment
Basic Need: Security


Gotta say thats very me
 

Doctor Cringelord

Well-known member
Joined
Aug 27, 2013
Messages
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MBTI Type
I
Enneagram
9w8
Instinctual Variant
sp/sx
Assertiveness: 1.7
Responsiveness: 1.8

Analytical
 

Such Irony

Honor Thy Inferior
Joined
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Messages
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MBTI Type
INtp
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5w6
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sp/so
Right smack in the middle between amiable and analytical.

Assertiveness 1.7
Responsiveness 2.5

Both descriptions seem to fit me equally well.
 

Ashtart

Obliviously Mad
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Jun 6, 2017
Messages
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MBTI Type
INFP
Enneagram
4w5
Instinctual Variant
sp/sx
I've got analyticalDRIVER on one test I've did on Social Styles few days ago.
 
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