Feminist Perspectives Test

[yeghor]

Feminist Perspectives Test (Historical)

Liberal Feminism

Liberal Feminists believe that women and men have equal capacities and that they should have the same civil rights and opportunities. They advocate that equal treatment must be enshrined in the law and that politics should be restricted to the public sphere; reserving the rights of the individual to a private life not touched by government or politics.

 

[Morpeko]

 

[Lark]

I couldnt cut and paste my results like everyone seems to have been able to.

I'm pleased that I got 74% liberal, 73% radical and socialist and cultural scores in the seventies too.

 

[yeghor]

I couldnt cut and paste my results like everyone seems to have been able to.

I'm pleased that I got 74% liberal, 73% radical and socialist and cultural scores in the seventies too.

Well you should make up your mind.

 

[Lark]

Well you should make up your mind.

I dont understand what you mean, I dont think of these as rival schools.

 

[yeghor]

I dont understand what you mean, I dont think of these as rival schools.

You must be an Ãœber-Revolutionary romantic like Tribore from Final Space:

 

[Doctor Cringelord]

Fuck the Duluth Model

 

[yeghor]

Fuck the Duluth Model

Why is that?

 

[Doctor Cringelord]

Why is that?

I’m not doing your homework for you. Look it up. Look into the people who designed it and how they admitted it was based on ideology rather than any hard data or science

 

[yeghor]

I’m not doing your homework for you. Look it up. Look into the people who designed it and how they admitted it was based on ideology rather than any hard data or science

Which type of feminists would you expect them Duluth system developers to be on this test?

Conservative?
Liberal?
Radical?
Socialist?
Cultural?
Woman of Coolor?

 

[yeghor]

It is noteworthy to mention here that aggressive/abusive behaviour is represented under enneagram 8 demeanor.

People (both men and women) having high enneagram 8 scores would be prone to aggression and abuse towards others, especially when coupled with low heart triad scores (empathy).

This should be taken into account in feminism and in social sciences to differentiate between well-adjusted men and women and mal-adjusted ones.

 

[yeghor]

Jumping on the OT bandwagon.
Enneagram 3 and 4 don't have much to do with empathy. Enneagram 4 has to do with your own sense of identity, enneagram 3 is even part of the assertive triad (with 7 and 8), and has to deal with the perception other people have of us. Not to mention that they're all related to shame.
I can see e2 being sort of related with empathy, since it is related to losing your sense of self to help others.

I agree with the 2. Yet, I would still expect those with high enneagram 3 and 4 to be gentler and more sensitive to others' suffering as opposed to those who score lower. Enneagram 4s for instance, would not be insensitive to suffering of people they identify with. It would make them sad and depressed.

As for enneagram 3s, it would still make them sensitive to suffering of people in their community/circle and environment.

Basic Desire:To feel valuable and worthwhile

Threes report that when they realize to what extent they have adapted their lives to the expectations of others, the question arises, “Well, then, what do I want?”

They often simply did not know; it was not a question that had ever come up before. Thus, the fundamental dilemma of Threes is that they have not been allowed to be who they really are and to manifest their own authentic qualities (My note: contrary to enneagram 4).

At a young age, they got the message that they were not allowed to have feelings (My note: Fi) and be themselves: they must, in effect, be someone else to be accepted. To some degree, all of the personality types have been sent the same message, but because of their particular background and makeup, Threes not only heard it, they began to live by it.

The attention they received by performing in a certain way was their oxygen, and they needed it to breathe. Unfortunately, it came at a high price.

 

[yeghor]

If you want to go by stereotypes, the average bully cliché is 783.

But everything you highlighted about 3 has nothing to do with empathy. 3 are doers and strive for efficiency. They put their own feelings apart in the name of it (like 5 and 1, same triad).
To make it easier: I want to be admired because I don't have a sense of self. I'll find it in the way other people perceive me. There's no empathy in this.

Your example for 4s is valid but circumstantial and won't result in testing (which was your initial point)

Enneagram 3 - Key Motivations: Want to be affirmed, to distinguish themselves from others, to have attention, to be admired, and to impress others.

Lower emotional habit: Vanity, based on keeping up a good image and always being successful

Higher emotion: Truthfulness, which is the willingness to go beyond appearances and develop personal authenticity (My note: this authenticity is enneagram 4 attitude. It is basically saying that enneagram 3s are the exact opposite of enneagram 4.)

Archetypal challenge: To let go of image and social persona and find one's inner essence (My note: inner essence is enneagram 4s' desire).

So if enneagram 4 is a feeling type who values individual authenticity and defines their identity internally, enneagram 3 is the exact opposite, a feeler type who do not have internal feelings defining their personal preferences and identity but defines their identity based on how much they are loved and admired in their social group.

Enneagram 4 is therefore Fi-dominant behaviour whereas enneagram 3 is Fe-dominant behaviour. Fe in dominant position measures how objects in the external environment feel toward the individual, and to get a good feedback from others (i.e. love and self-worth), enneagram 3s (Fe-doms) keep adjusting their behaviour and image so that it will garner them the most positive feedback (admiration) in the society, by measuring what is valued the most in their society for their gender. They are also known for being charming and diplomatic.

Therefore, their measure of success is defined by embodying the image of the most praiseworthy individual in their society, according to their society's values rather than their internal values (where the latter would be enneagram 4 behaviour). Their competitiveness emerges when there are rivals in their environment who garner more social praise (popularity) then they do.

Empathy is derived from having an abundance of feeling faculties. People low in feelings do not feel internal remorse for their actions so bad feelings do not serve as an internal deterrent for them but external consequences might.

I understand that my understanding is very subjective but it makes perfect sense to me.

 

[yeghor]

The wrong logical step is attributing image-consciousness to Fe and thus empathy. It's not a double link.
What you listed has still nothing to do with empathy and is correct until that step (Being compliant, etcetera). Today I'm being too busy to elaborate on this.

Sympathy/Compassion if not empathy:

1) When there's suffering/hurt around them, how would enneagram 3s uphold their successful image and garner praise and admiration (positive feedback) from members of their society?

2) Would they cause others suffering/hurt when it would tarnish their good image in their society or when that action is not sanctioned in their society?

In enneagram 3s, dependence on others' admiration and love would make them sensitive to others' expectations of them, which would compel them to be receptive towards their needs.

Turning back to my original point though, enneagram 8 symbolizes aggressive and abusive tendencies in an individual, which may be used by social scientists to identify how well-adjusted a man or woman is.

Enneagram 8 descriptions even indicate that unhealthy 8s exhibit symptoms of antisocial personality disorder.

 

[Doctor Cringelord]

Which type of feminists would you expect them Duluth system developers to be on this test?

Conservative?
Liberal?
Radical?
Socialist?
Cultural?
Woman of Coolor?

Radical