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    Default Ethics comes from Si? o_O

    The most ridiculous thought is that Ethics comes from Si. People don't understand that Si/Se is like a water and world is a cup. So what is the problem? Problem is people who don't see the world in 4 dimensions , who don' t see changes in the world and how these changes have a influence on people's lifes and what we have? We have people who think that Si is function who is responsible for ethics just because it is "traditional"! Do you know what is traditional values? Do you think this values have a connection with morality? Guess what , your values are not universal values (Fe)! There are people or civilization who think something is moral while you see it as disguise. Suppose you are risen in cannibalistic society you as Si user will defend this system because Si serve established system. If system provide moral decadence than Si will act that as well Se. Se will see in every system opportunity for growing.


    Functions which are responsible for ethics are ethical or feeling function Fe and Fi. The only difference between them is how they get information for example inf Fe user don't like people in general but they want to be appreciate by them. They want to hear their thoughts (Ti) because if they don't want to admit they are care about what are people think about them! On another hand inf Fi user don't cere about it because Fi has strong inner values and according to that values they sort people (Te). So Fe user will search how people act to other people , set objective moral standards which make Alpha and Beta "childish" or "revolutionary". Fe is global , sympathetic, democratic and revolutionary while Fi is more concerned about feeling of individuate so Fi is individual , empathetic , aristocratic and traditional.
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    Who or what are you contradicting exactly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norexan View Post
    The most ridiculous thought is that Ethics comes from Si.
    Whose thought was it?
    Who, if not you. When, if not now.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    Whose thought was it?
    For example SJ user are often describe as moral people just because they are referred as "traditionalists" but be traditional is not equal for morality. Be traditional means have a standards which are common in some society so if your society promote killing and raping THIS will be moral for Si but not for Fe or Fi. Same with Se.
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    Dail [or Daer] ú-[o] chyn [or fyn/thyn] [?] Ú-danno i failad a thi; an úben tannatha le failad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norexan View Post
    For example SJ user are often describe as moral people just because they are refereed as "traditionalists" but be traditional is not equal for morality. Be traditional means have a standards which are common in some society so if your society promote killing and raping THIS will be moral for Si but not for Fe or Fi. Same with Se.
    I think you've been speaking with people who smoke crack. (That's my way of saying their logic is horse shit.)
    Who, if not you. When, if not now.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    I think you've been speaking with people who smoke crack. (That's my way of saying their logic is horse shit.)
    You miss the point.

    So...

    Let's we have system A and system B - generations

    In system A is normal: drugs , killing , raping - anarchy in general
    In system B is normal: laws , order , dictatorship -> totalitarianism in gereral


    Si from system A will protect values of system A as something is normal.
    Si from system B will protect values of system B as something is normal.

    What does it tell about it? There is no morality with Si!
    When you have a system which promotes decadence the only true rebel is when you begin to act contrary form the system!


    And Se? Se will feel fine in both of system. They want to destroy the system but still use benefits from it.
    Se from system A wants kings something to rule and Se from system B wants revolution.

    THERE IS ONLY A SPINNING WHEEL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norexan View Post
    You miss the point.
    No, you think I missed the point. There's a difference. You're long-winded. I'm not.
    Who, if not you. When, if not now.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    No, you think I missed the point. There's a difference. You're long-winded. I'm not.
    I knew you will come on this tread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norexan View Post
    I knew you will come on this tread.

    When you're done playing games, maybe you'll answer the question still on the table.
    Who, if not you. When, if not now.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    When you're done playing games, maybe you'll answer the question still on the table.
    I didn't answer because it doesn't meter.
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