Smilephantomhive
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I think the whole language of "using functions" is wrong, or well not good. Let's just say that by this definition that I would use Ne a lot, well idk not a lot compared to Ne dom, but still more than you would expect from a Ne inferior. However I am not a fan on the Ne mindset. Idk, I find can them reckless, shallow, some boring (mainly online ones, tend to be ones on tumblr, well maybe some here, but I did not have anyone specific in mind.). Now are these things correct? Idk. But that's not the point. The point is that people tend to be annoyed with how types that are different than theirs view the world. I think typing people based on mindset over abilities is a much better way to go about things.
Anyway I think abilities is where the N bias comes from. I mean people take thinking concretely as a given. In Piaget's stage thingy concrete operational is before the abstract formal operational. So well people will of course think people who prefer the later, more presumably difficult stage as more intelligent. It makes sense, but obviously I did not want to be perceived as unintelligent.
Some of it, I have trouble putting it into words. I know, and have already I think explained that people used their egos to make their type seem superior in some thread. there is no way someone doesn't use all of them, it is insanely difficult to type anyone. Also abilities change as you get older. Okay mindsets do too, but abilities is much easier than mindsets imo. I don't know, it just seems messy, and has zero objectivity. Don't get me wrong mbti will never be 100% objective, but there has to be some consensus.
I still hate that people think of Ss as sheep. I don't think very many active people here still do, but I find this to bea thing with some newcomers. Idk it could've been old mbti articles and posts that lasted, but sill managed to offend me (fuck why did I ever think I was thick skinned). Anyway I think this belief is due to the tendency to think people that you are not close with don't have original thoughts because you don't know what's going on in their head.
And yeah, I don't use this word lightly, but it is downright evil to think that one group does not think for themselves. I loath people who do this, and don't respect them, and think they are part of the problem. This type of thinking is the route or racism, sexism, all the isms really. I mean being typist isn't as bad as those, but having typists tendencies makes you more likely to be prejudiced in real life.
Another problem with the whole uses language is that even when you remind people that it's about preference, people still think of it as abilities, and that you have to suck at the other things. This causes people to think fs are dumber since well they can't use logic, right? Also if Ns didn't use sensing (like the 5 senses definition) then they would not even be able to function...
Also the 5 sense definition is dumb. This is garenteed to make people think sensors are simple and dumb no matter how much disclaimers you put.
Anyway I think abilities is where the N bias comes from. I mean people take thinking concretely as a given. In Piaget's stage thingy concrete operational is before the abstract formal operational. So well people will of course think people who prefer the later, more presumably difficult stage as more intelligent. It makes sense, but obviously I did not want to be perceived as unintelligent.
Some of it, I have trouble putting it into words. I know, and have already I think explained that people used their egos to make their type seem superior in some thread. there is no way someone doesn't use all of them, it is insanely difficult to type anyone. Also abilities change as you get older. Okay mindsets do too, but abilities is much easier than mindsets imo. I don't know, it just seems messy, and has zero objectivity. Don't get me wrong mbti will never be 100% objective, but there has to be some consensus.
I still hate that people think of Ss as sheep. I don't think very many active people here still do, but I find this to bea thing with some newcomers. Idk it could've been old mbti articles and posts that lasted, but sill managed to offend me (fuck why did I ever think I was thick skinned). Anyway I think this belief is due to the tendency to think people that you are not close with don't have original thoughts because you don't know what's going on in their head.
And yeah, I don't use this word lightly, but it is downright evil to think that one group does not think for themselves. I loath people who do this, and don't respect them, and think they are part of the problem. This type of thinking is the route or racism, sexism, all the isms really. I mean being typist isn't as bad as those, but having typists tendencies makes you more likely to be prejudiced in real life.
Another problem with the whole uses language is that even when you remind people that it's about preference, people still think of it as abilities, and that you have to suck at the other things. This causes people to think fs are dumber since well they can't use logic, right? Also if Ns didn't use sensing (like the 5 senses definition) then they would not even be able to function...
Also the 5 sense definition is dumb. This is garenteed to make people think sensors are simple and dumb no matter how much disclaimers you put.