Why is INTJ a recommended pairing for ENFP but not INFP?

[Norrsken]

Is this a response to me or just the thread in general?

The thread in general. Oh gosh, I hope my post didn't looked like a direct attack to you or anybody here, lmao, not my intention!

 

[great_bay]

Ahh so I understand that the 6th function is incredibly unpreferred because the 6th function is difficult to use for people. 5th function is easier to use for people. INTJ and ENFP are paired up because they're dominate intuitive. Meanwhile INFPs aren't dominate intuitive. Ni is hard for INFPs.

 

[Lord Lavender]

I had a discussion with some ENFPs in the ENFP/INTJ thread and it seems that they get on well due to not just sharing a dom N function but also the shared Fi connection with the ENFP bringing the Fi out of the INTJs shell so to speak. I went on the thread with the intention of flirting and trying to charm the ENFPs with some success but at the same time i also learnt many things from my dating endeavour. ENFPs can get into conflict with ENTPs due to them finding our Ti to be like a scalpel cutting into their Fi so to speak. I also nominate the Fe steam room and the Fi sun through magnifying glass analogy's. Fe is like a steam room as it can be overly smothering and warm to certain people while Fi can be like a magnifying glass as it can really dig into your moral self plus it can be overly focused warmth as well but in a different way from Fe.

 

[great_bay]

No offense to the other posts but I want objective information on functions instead of hard to understand anecdotes.

 

[Lord Lavender]

No offense to the other posts but I want objective information on functions instead of hard to understand anecdotes.

MBTI is a human system not just some facts and figures. You learn a lot from talking to others and making connections with that. I do apologise if i am not making much sense though .

 

[Qlip]

I'm in a relationship with an INFP, and very technically, and crudely, I 'stole' her from an INTJ. There is a lot more to the situation and our relationship than typology, but as far as typological factors consider into it, we both very much appreciate each other's Fi. My Fi is overgrown, and we're both a bit narcissistic being 4w5's, and we like the some of the 'mirror' aspect of our relationship, being able to appreciate each other for things we see in ourselves, the challenges of facing our own deficits in each other, and the potential rewards, and the comforts of having similar aesthetics (in the grand sense).

As far as I can tell, one of the big problems with her and her INTJ was that there was nobody looking outward, which meant that because of the objectifying nature of the FP/TJ pairing, they essentially built a fortress with a moat around themselves and the world for which each other was a structural element, and not allowed to be living/breathing/changing people. Now, I don't honestly think that an INFP/INTJ pairing is doomed, so much on why people get together and what keeps them that way depends on maturity, and individual idiosyncrasies.

In our case, I am somewhat obsessed with being a generally self-sufficient person, emotionally and practically, which is precisely what makes feel repulsed by the concept of a 'complimentary' INTJ pairing, and she wants the same for herself, which makes for a great Adam-Lilith pairing of equals.

 

[Amargith]

Ahh so I understand that the 6th function is incredibly unpreferred because the 6th function is difficult to use for people. 5th function is easier to use for people. INTJ and ENFP are paired up because they're dominate intuitive. Meanwhile INFPs aren't dominate intuitive. Ni is hard for INFPs.

Its more that..while you have access to the sixth function, there is a tendency to be very sensitive to it as it is experienced as judgemental and, when used, it often gets used in that critiquing capacity. So the competence is on the...well, not so pretty side of the function. It is possible however, to build on that foundation and with awareness of that inclination, develop a new appreciation for the sixth function and curb the resentment it causes and your own sharp edge when you use it.

 

[Lord Lavender]

Its more that..while you have access to the sixth function, there is a tendency to be very sensitive to it as it is experienced as judgemental and, when used, it often gets used in that critiquing capacity. So the competence is on the...well, not so pretty side of the function. It is possible however, to build on that foundation and with awareness of that inclination, develop a new appreciation for the sixth function and curb the resentment it causes and your own sharp edge when you use it.

This is dead on why i dont get on with TJ types as their Te seems to trample on me for some strange reason. While I am not weak with Te it is very unnatural to use. A good analogy would be grabbing a weightlifters hand to try and lift something. You cannot say it is weak but it is surely unnatural to use as you are not using something innate to you so to speak.

 

[great_bay]

I have to agree with some of these post. I have an easy time using Te though it's not a function I use all the time. Ni, my 6th feels doesn't feel innate to use. I don't know how NJs use Ni all the time. I assume ENTPs on the other hand find Ni easy to use but find Te perplexing.

 

[Lord Lavender]

I have to agree with some of these post. I have an easy time using Te though it's not a function I use all the time. Ni, my 6th feels doesn't feel innate to use. I don't know how NJs use Ni all the time. I assume ENTPs on the other hand find Ni easy to use but find Te perplexing.

I have the same thought about TJ types using Te all the time. For me Ni is something i am quite good at but it is something i prefer to not use but instead use Ne. Fi is the function that is my weakest and most destructive i would say as it goes against the very essence of myself so to speak.

 

[Metamorphosis]

Basically all MBTI discussion is anecdotal, including function discussion (although if you want to focus on functions I get that). People's perceptions of their own function use and that of others is basically all anecdotal and as far as I know there is no hard line that distinguishes the use of one function over another. There is really no research that supports the MBTI's ability to predict behavior. It's real value, imo, is helping to understand how people think.

 

[baccheion]

We got different shit does make me wonder which type wont put up with our shit. ISFJ if we do similiar letter swap as INFP and INTJ

How well do you get along with ISFJs?

 

[anticlimatic]

The only thing recommended for an INTJ to pair with is a cat.

 

[Coriolis]

The only thing recommended for an INTJ to pair with is a cat.

How about an INTP?

 

[anticlimatic]

How about an INTP?

Robot cat.

 

[OneLovelyAdventure]

INTJ is also supposed to be a good match for ENTP since ENTP are also Ne-dom. Ni-doms and Ne-doms, as well as any Xi-Xe pairings (granted the X is the same letter) is theoretically ideal.

 

[Litsnob]

I take the pairing recommendations with a large grain of salt. Generally I do not imagine myself happy with an extrovert partner. I have a good friend who is ENFP and she has much stronger social needs than I do and is always wanting to get out and do things with people. Lots of people. Yuck.

 

[Amargith]

I take the pairing recommendations with a large grain of salt. Generally I do not imagine myself happy with an extrovert partner. I have a good friend who is ENFP and she has much stronger social needs than I do and is always wanting to get out and do things with people. Lots of people. Yuck.

That's something you work with, though. It's not that hard - they just go out, while you do your thing at home, and some nights you spend together. Or you find a social activity that is refreshing for you while engaging for them (for instance, we play boardgames in a group - he gets to do strategic shit and I get to socialise ). And then there's the fact that being an extrovert is a sliding scale. I'm only 60 percent, but i met an ENFP with 100 percent last week....BIG difference

 

[Poki]

Because INTJs are mad scientists who can make the unworkable work, and ENFP are the personality type that is the most flexible to make a relationship work its a demented match made in heaven

Now INFP will actually care about the relationship just as much as the ENFP, ENFPs are attracted to shiny so they are best at working with adaptation of self to external and the INFP focue causes them to not need to adapt. This confuses the hell out of ENFP. And they are left

Pull out what you want, was just a play on what i see. Not full on serious.

 

[Abendrot]

The only thing recommended for an INTJ to pair with is a cat.

I'd better stay away from cats. That's a slippery slope I don't want to have anything to do with.