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    Quote Originally Posted by ENFJ Grip

    Cognitive Functions: Extroverted Feeling – Introverted Intuition – Extroverted Sensing – Introverted Thinking

    How the rut develops: When sensing that a problem is developing, the ENFJ will first attempt to find a solution that achieves the best possible outcome for everyone involved. They will survey how their loved ones are feeling and attempt to make a decision that best suits the desires of the majority. If they are unable to do so, the ENFJ will turn a heavier focus to their introverted intuition. They will independently examine the options that are available to them and theorize which ones would provide the best future outcome for all those involved. If this method fails to help them, the ENFJ will turn to their extroverted sensing. Knowing they are under stress, they may use a trial-and-error method of problem solving. They will try out various solutions in hopes that one will take. If this, too, fails them, the ENFJ is at risk of falling prey to their inferior function.

    What the rut looks like: An ENFJ in a rut reverts to their introverted thinking. Usually empathetic and decisive, the ENFJ will become cold and overly analytical – they take a detached view of those around them and may make harsh judgments under the guise of ‘just being honest.’ This normally understanding type become pessimistic about themselves and those around them – criticizing others without warrant and refusing to show their loved ones the compassion that usually defines their very personality.

    How to get out of it: To break out of a rut, the ENFJ needs to get back in touch with their extroverted feeling. They need to reconnect with loved ones and recognize their place within society. Their introverted intuition may help them in their return to health – by setting plans for the future, the ENFJ can re-establish their purpose and reconnect with others as they work toward meaningful goals.

    What their return to health will look like: As their mindset improves, the ENFJ will spend more and more time around others – they will rekindle their old connections and regain their sense of responsibility. Their decisive, encouraging nature will take over and they will return to making detailed plans for the future, which ensure that those around them are happy and thriving.
    Like with @EJCC, what is striking about this to me is it precisely describes my thought process order from Fe>Ni>Se>Ti. The big caveot here is (yet again) Fe is too focused on people and maximal outcome for everyone. The reason I take issue is there are so many situations where other people are not involved. It makes people who read it focus on such a small subset of things and gives a bad impression.

    The key with Fe is it will instantly look for what is the best outcome possible that dots all the i's and crosses all the t's. It's a very holistic approach that factors many different measures at once, and that often is a statistical thing, hence the statement of "best suits the majority". The thing is the majority doesn't have to be people, it can just as well be things. When that isn't immediately obvious, Ni is turned to next, to filter out which options are worth things and not. It's a lot of gut and assumptions based on patterns observed in the past and what would be expected from the future. It essentially eliminates variables, and allows Fe to navigate a more efficient statistical set. When that still doesn't work, it then comes down to unplanned gut driven trial and error a la Se. This is not ideal, but can and does work. I often do this in frustration where it's sort of like "...fuck it! Time to throw things at the wall and see what sticks!". Interestingly when this works it feels hella liberating and awesome. When that doesn't work enter in inferior Ti which sucks, because it hurts. When the Se method doesn't work we default to thinking "nothing works, we failed and everything is awful! ".

    Inferior Ti makes us have to rely on a system that we're not used to and is a struggle to use. Having to coldly analyze everything in painstaking detail is exhausting, and it feels so constraining despite being so broad. It invariably becomes very reduced and symplitic because we get overwhelmed with trying to comb over every little tidbit, and it isn't possible. It makes us lose sigh of the long term and what really matters. Everything looks bleak and pointless.
    It is our duty to create meaning.

    If only it were that simple.
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    Silver and Lead Galena's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by EJCC View Post

    ...but this is me, too! At least when in the grip of the inferior...which honestly is a lot of the time at this point in my trajectory.

    This normally artistic and fun-loving type will become fixated on making the most logical choices for their future, without reference to what they actually want or feel passionate about. They will regulate their lives in an impersonal way, failing to make time for the people or passions that usually rule their world. They may resort to intense self-criticism and convince themselves that they’ll never make anything out of their life or their art form and must therefore make choices in the most pragmatic way possible.
    ...fffff. Yeah. very accurate, to me and to anyone who has ever so much as glanced at my blog.
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    AKA Nunki Polaris's Avatar
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    I read through all of the sections about being stuck in a rut, and none of them come close to describing anything I do. Also, I experience Se as a positive function: I enjoy being in tune with my external environment.
    [ Ni > Ti > Fe > Fi > Ne > Te > Si > Se ][ 4w5 sp/sx ][ RLOAI ][ IEI-Ni ]

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    What the rut looks like: An ISFJ in a rut reverts to extroverted intuition. This normally organized and dedicated type begins doubting themselves immensely and second guessing decisions they’ve made in the past. They may begin and then quickly abandon multiple new endeavors; unable to commit to any of them for fear that they have chosen incorrectly. They will distance themselves from loved ones, feeling unable to live up to the commitments they’ve made and will attempt to ‘go it alone’ in every aspect of their lives.
    There it is.

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    *sigh* I am seriously starting to wonder that I may be IxFP. None of the xxFJs fit me.
    You are so arbitrary.

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