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Same Personality Types Rub Each Other The Wrong Way?

Xander

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UNstructured!? I thought you were a damn J! ;)
Someone has to organise if you won't :tongue10:
Looking back through my life, in all honesty, I tend to get along best with EF types. INTPs tend to be ok. I had an ISTJ room mate and we couldn't fine any common ground and really rubbed each other the wrong way. I think I just need the EF to reach out, because I won't.
:yes: Me too. It's nice when you're all cold and icy to come back to a nice warm fire :)

Okay so sometimes there's an errant flame but that's half the fun ain't it?
:D
 
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Moiety

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Is there any guide to accurately type people in real life (and in real-time) ?? Because I see a lot of you talking about your "ESTP" friends or your "INFJ" co-worker and the only people whose type I know are the handful of people I know in real life, who took the test.


How do you do it? Is it just guessing? (i.e. this guy procrastinates like there is no tomorrow ergo he's a P) I/E and J/P might be easier but what about S/N and F/T?
 

INTJMom

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Is there any guide to accurately type people in real life (and in real-time) ?? Because I see a lot of you talking about your "ESTP" friends or your "INFJ" co-worker and the only people whose type I know are the handful of people I know in real life, who took the test.


How do you do it? Is it just guessing? (i.e. this guy procrastinates like there is no tomorrow ergo he's a P) I/E and J/P might be easier but what about S/N and F/T?
Most people are just guessing,
though some might have had profiles done at work or something.
For the most part though, I assume people are guessing.
I have an INFP sister who is convinced she can accurately guess people's types by looking at their photograph.
But MY question is: how do you know?!
Her claims are not falsifiable, yet she behaves as though she is 100% accurate.
(It's a little irritating.)
 

Kasper

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Most people are just guessing,
though some might have had profiles done at work or something.
For the most part though, I assume people are guessing.
I have an INFP sister who is convinced she can accurately guess people's types by looking at their photograph.
But MY question is: how do you know?!
Her claims are not falsifiable, yet she behaves as though she is 100% accurate.
(It's a little irritating.)

Socionics claim that.
 

Xander

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Is there any guide to accurately type people in real life (and in real-time) ?? Because I see a lot of you talking about your "ESTP" friends or your "INFJ" co-worker and the only people whose type I know are the handful of people I know in real life, who took the test.


How do you do it? Is it just guessing? (i.e. this guy procrastinates like there is no tomorrow ergo he's a P) I/E and J/P might be easier but what about S/N and F/T?
Bad practice there my friend. If you try to decide letter by letter it's a lot harder and filled with risk. NF, NT, SP and SJ are usually the first to be decided upon. After that it's more a question of knowing the type as a whole. For example I have a friend who I thought couldn't possibly be an ENFP but he was actually tested as one repeatedly. He's quite and a little asocial... however his cupboards are jammed with just junk, oddly his room is sparsly furnished though, and his PC has vast quantities of ecclectic music and photos on it yet he's obsessed with optimum setup. As such it's not that he's loud and insists that you love him or kill him but more that he reminds me of my other ENFP friend in his hidden behaviour.

Personally I type by tick box. Whichever type you manage to tick the most criteria for is my first guess on which type you are.

Of course I keep changing the criteria just to keep people guessing :smile:
 

Moiety

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Personally I type by tick box. Whichever type you manage to tick the most criteria for is my first guess on which type you are.

Of course I keep changing the criteria just to keep people guessing :smile:

I see. And what criteria do you use? What is your "bible", if you will. Because if I'm looking at something, say, an ENFP trait, like "charisma" - there are numerous types who are supposed to be charismatic (most E's ?).
 

Xander

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I see. And what criteria do you use? What is your "bible", if you will. Because if I'm looking at something, say, an ENFP trait, like "charisma" - there are numerous types who are supposed to be charismatic (most E's ?).
Ooo bad question... I get complained at cause my checklist for ENFPs is kind of trying to compare them to role models like Scrat and Tiggr :D

ENFPs knacker me out, are usually enthusiastic for romance and such, tend to party hard and can drink a lot... can be concerned with physique but never really end up with a regimen so to speak. Of the three that I know all have an area of interest (well usually more than one) which recieves more than what would be considered perhaps sensible amount of time and money devoted to it. One of these hobbies is almost always socialising.

Oh and I tend to find with ENFPs that you can hurt them in an instant but if you try and cheer them up then they use their critical thinking to try and analyse why you are saying what you are.
 

Gen

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Oh and I tend to find with ENFPs that you can hurt them in an instant but if you try and cheer them up then they use their critical thinking to try and analyse why you are saying what you are.

Dude, retract the claws and you'll be able to wrestle without anyone actually getting hurt! All that practice and it hasn't taught you anything yet huh? :tongue:
 

Xander

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Dude, retract the claws and you'll be able to wrestle without anyone actually getting hurt! All that practice and it hasn't taught you anything yet huh? :tongue:
Oh right...

Wait...

I have claws? :huh:
 

Moiety

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Ooo bad question... I get complained at cause my checklist for ENFPs is kind of trying to compare them to role models like Scrat and Tiggr :D

ENFPs knacker me out, are usually enthusiastic for romance and such, tend to party hard and can drink a lot... can be concerned with physique but never really end up with a regimen so to speak. Of the three that I know all have an area of interest (well usually more than one) which recieves more than what would be considered perhaps sensible amount of time and money devoted to it. One of these hobbies is almost always socialising.

Oh and I tend to find with ENFPs that you can hurt them in an instant but if you try and cheer them up then they use their critical thinking to try and analyse why you are saying what you are.

Tiggr? For real? :p

So what is your INTP stereotype (character) then?
 

Xander

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Tiggr? For real? :p

So what is your INTP stereotype (character) then?
ME.. of course :D

And let me tell you... few people pass THAT test!!

Have to keep the numbers down you see... I'm special :D

(I actually find INTP the hardest to guess at due to my own particular slant on the type... they're all frickin 5s and I'm a 9!!)
 

raindancing

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hmm don't know if I've met any other INFPs before...

Other types:
INTP - my husband's type, we get along great and really click together :D

ENFP - my brother's best friend, get along well with him. He's fun to talk to and do things with. He can occasionally be annoyingly immature with bragging (he's 17), but if you just let him know something annoys you he's never offended and always cuts it out. He's a godsend for my brother (ISFJ).

ISFJ - father, brother and mother-in-law. I get along fine with all of them. Nothing particularly special, but nothing particularly bad either. Sometimes I can feel weighed down by different expectations they have, and sometimes I get frustrated when trying to talk to them about anything other than concrete subjects... none of the ISFJs I know are at all strong in the abstract arena. My father in particular can be frustrating (even though I love him dearly), he is quite set in his ways. :) My brother is the most open of the three, and I think a lot of this has to do with his ENFP friend (who he is VERY lucky to have. My bro is so shy he doesn't really have any other friends, but this ENFP has known him since they were little and has sort of made it his mission to bring my bro out a bit, and help him learn how to enjoy life. They seem to balance each other quite well.)

ESFJ - sister, mother and aunt. Hmm, this type has more of a tendency to rub me the wrong way... not excessively, but...
I just have a hard time with the constant talk about shopping/who's pregnant/who's getting married/etc etc etc... especially when it's my sister (she has very strong S and E and will talk non stop for as long as someone will pretend to listen). My mom has a very strong tendency to rub me the wrong way, but a lot of that is due to her being imbalanced...
For short amounts of time they can be fun though, or at least funny. :D

ESTJ - I know two people who I think are ESTJ (they haven't been tested). I don't know if they are very indicative of the type though, they both seem extreme Te to me. And they both drive me CRAZY. Really. It is rare that anyone actually affects me like this, but I can hardly stand being around them. I'd go into more but I don't want to rant. :rolleyes:

ESFP - my other sister (14 yr old). Get along great with her, heaps of fun. She has an excellent sense of humor (loves to tease and be teased). I think our common Fi helps us to connect. Her P is also refreshing in the midst of my SJ dominated family.

I would really like to meet some other Ns, especially ENTPs, they sound like a lot of fun. Currently where I live I don't know any Ns other than my husband, and it's been a little difficult not having anyone else to talk to/do things with (not that I can't talk to the Ss that I know, but it's just not the same...).

Hopefully this isn't too off the topic of what you were asking for in the OP.
 

mippus

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I must say that I like being around other INTP's.
I can imagine that it is an irritating, if not frightning, thing for other people to observe... ;)
 

Kristiana

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It just hit me today, after much observation, that people with the exact same personality type tend to avoid each other and, in general, rub each other the wrong way. For example, in my community there are two brilliant INTJ's who are almost exactly the same in interests and personality. But they can't stand each other, and constantly denounce the other one publicly.

My mother, an ENFP, knows two ENFP's and avoids them like the Dickens. When I mentioned to her the similarity in MBTI, she got nervous, and started finding all sorts of differences between them and her.

Finally, there's my younger sister and I, both INFP's. I think she's a great person, but I dislike talking to her because there is no dynamic happening between us at all. Plus, it feels strange- as if I'm talking to someone copying the things that make me unique.

Anyone else have this? Does it make sense?


Hasn't been my experience :) I married an INTJ and we're both extremely happy together. Also, three of my other close friends are INTJs, too.
 

Firelie

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Yeah, I like very few other INTJs. Obnoxious bunch, for the most part. :)
 

sassafrassquatch

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I don't care for other INTPs very much. Especially if they're 5w4, 4w5 or any kind of 4 on the enneagram. Non 4 INTPs seem alright though.
 
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