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    Fi vs Ti & Fe vs Te
    Real life examples & explanations. How do they manifest in different positions in the types? How do you personally use these functions?

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    I relate to both Fe and Te very strongly. Ultimately though, what I use is Fe. It's more that I understand how and why Te works well in others, even if I don't get the minutia of it. So long as the other Te person isn't against or out of alignment with me, we work well together.

    Both of them are directed towards plans, function, group dynamics, right/wrong, getting to the goal, and being productive. The best way I delineate them is Fe works with subjectivity, where as Te works with objectivity.

    Neither is better than the other, and they aim for the same things, but what the work with while similar, is quite different. I definitely work with subjectivity and I have no problem with it. Granted, there are some areas I demand objectivity as that's how you must be to make something right, but I'm speaking in more of a general sense. This is most apparent when dealing with other people. With me, Fe leads me to see the "flow" of groups of people, how they relate, move, and work. I consider this information to be vitally important and it happens automatically. Te doesn't do that. While it recognizes group dynamics just as well, it does so in a more objective pragmatic manner. There has to be an explicit purpose and use that can be defined and worked with clearly. You won't often find them saying something like "the quality of this persons presence leads others to feel x". It's simply unimportant.

    Fe is also more indirect with things. It doesn't have to be linear, and is ok with the messiness of the social world and interactions. There is an unspoken pattern to it. To Te, this is just confusing and a distraction. To Te being direct and straight forwards cuts through the bullshit and gets to the heart of the matter much more quickly and cleanly.

    I ultimately define it as this:

    Fe: Subjectively analyze objective information
    Te: Objectively analyze objective information

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    Quick 'n messy:

    • Te is about measuring, quantifying and ultimately exploiting the world, regardless of value or import. Like a shopkeeper trying to make 10 sales a day so he can break even.
    • Fe is about finding and enforcing ways that people can be expressive and relate to each other, regardless of what any one person is seeking to understand. Like a great actor moving an audience to tears.

    • Ti is about understanding the world for yourself, regardless of how people might feel about it. Like being curious as to how to break into someone's computer, even if it's disrespectful to breach that boundary.
    • Fi is about cultivating your own values, regardless of practicality or responsibility. Like wanting to quit a well-paying job that feels soulless, even if it's financially irresponsible to do so.
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    Fe wants nothing more than to oppress and silence Fi. Case closed
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vulcan View Post
    Fe wants nothing more than to oppress and silence Fi. Case closed
    And the Fe bashing begins.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by SearchingforPeace View Post
    And the Fe bashing begins.......
    Just direct it all to me. I have so much Fe that it will take multiple bludgeonings before I'll even feel it. It actually kinda tickles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vulcan View Post
    Fe wants nothing more than to oppress and silence Fi. Case closed
    I don't get it. If you're an INTP, doesn't that mean you use Fe? Are you saying you prefer to be around Fi users? Please don't bring in statements you can't or don't back up. Unless you're joking?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamBeliever View Post
    I don't get it. If you're an INTP, doesn't that mean you use Fe? Are you saying you prefer to be around Fi users? Please don't bring in statements you can't or don't back up. Unless you're joking?
    Yes, it was a joke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vulcan View Post
    Yes, it was a joke.
    That's what I figured. Just wanted that clarified for everyone here. Wouldn't help me get the information I wanted from this if it turned into nothing but a fight thread.

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