Response to Questions
Sorry for the wait on the reply [MENTION=25217]Kyubey[/MENTION]. My response to your question if I changed any of my typings now that the season is done: no. I'm still pretty confident about all of them. Let me explain the ones that were questioned:
Asuka Tanaka- The part that made you feel uneasy, with her 'masks', is kind of how I view Fe in general. Fe has to do with knowing how others are feeling, and then adjusting the self accordingly. It is not necessarily something that projects only kindness either- more so the image that you want to be picked up on by others. It is the function that allows you to know others by and make the correct expressions for what feeling you wish to convey. Plus, since Asuka is a girl, and in general, women are conditioned by society (probably especially in Japan) to better use Fe (be friendly, even if that's not how you personally feel- i.e. project a mask of pleasantness), it makes a terrible amount of sense for Asuka to have a well developed Fe, despite it being her third function. I think her ability to use "masks" fits right into the description of female ENTP.
Reina Kousaka- This is more a reply to [MENTION=8240]tsumatachi_san[/MENTION]. I can totally see where you would think that Reina is an ISFP since she is such a 4w5! The scene where I think this doesn't quite fit is where Yuuko (Ribbons) tells everybody (in front of Reina and Taki) that Reina was favored in the audition. When Reina leaves and Kumiko chases after her, she is so angry, she repeatedly slaps her thighs (haha) and then says something akin to "Yuuko isn't even very good [at trumpet]. Her opinion doesn't even matter until she is good". I have a lot of INTJ friends irl (somehow I have found 4 female ones to boot- I must have some weird INTJ radar- haha). One of the main themes I have noticed in INTJ's treatment of people is that of them valuing competence. My INTJ cousin informed me that the primary lens (not the only but the first) is whether or not they are competent. So to Reina, who values competency with the trumpet, Yuuko's opinion is especially angering to her, as Yuuko is not very good. So if you aren't good at band, your opinion about band related items is not as valid.
I realize that ISFP and INTJ have all the same cognitive functions, so the question really should be, what is her dominant function? Due to Reina's ultra obsessed chasing of a future goal (to be special by being good at trumpet), for her to be anything but Ni dominant is sort of improbable to me. To me, enneagram 4 is all about mass amounts of Ni and Fi, or Ne and Fi. If there can be male INFJ 5's, there certainly can be female INTJ 4's [I do note that it is MOST COMMON for INFJ's to be 4's and INTJ's to be 5's]. I'm sure that INTJ 4's very very rare, but Reina doesn't come off to me as someone you could commonly find either. She is also a little too good at Te for it to be her 4th function. It makes more sense for her to just have a well developed 3rd function Fi instead. I won't touch on her getting along with Kumiko again as more evidence, but it was there too. Ni-doms just generally get along. They just view the world similarly.
Kumiko Oumae- I'll attempt to give my extra reasons for her typing. They are in list form as I thought of them, and I don't have the time to make the writing flow more naturally now unfortunately:
Xnfj are the quintessential perfectionists. In episode 4 Kumiko is unhappy with anything less than perfection in her playing and is unhappy moving through the exercises since there is always something she could have done better. She continues in this vein of thought for the rest of the series.
Silence is unbearable to her in episode 5 (like many fe-dom and fe-aux people). She tries to find a subject to talk to Reina about that won’t upset her (Fe logic).
INFJ are excellent judges of character and potential as friends (or a relationship) [sometimes a person who is a little scary might take us longer to work up the courage to approach]. Reina would be a lot of things that an INFJ 4 would love. Authentic and special.
This is a quote from a board about INFJ's (I apologize for losing the source- I'm sure multiple with this info exist):
"There is often a discrepancy between the way they present (extraverted feeling auxiliary) and the way they really are (introverted intuition dominant)."
Clearly Kumiko has a discrepancy between how she acts and how she thinks/feels (INFJ paradox- very typical).
Kumiko talking to Midori over phone about how to act around Hazuki (who is depressed after being rejected). Counselor/advisor role = typical infj.
Fe mask= INFJ way to hide (shield), is a mask making function of sorts.
Tertiary Ti-> Kumiko can’t lie to Reina, she values her too much, so her tertiary Ti (working with Ni to discover absolute truths) [which makes her say really mean blunt things accidentally sometimes] makes her tell Reina the truth in Ep 11 when Reina asks Kumiko if she'd really side with her about the audition, even if it was the unpopular opinion (Fe dilemma!).
Extreme sense of privacy from sister and family.-> INFJ classic flaw, overly private.
Infj can make ridiculously strong ties to people very quickly = very closely bonded.
Having aux Fe makes her not realize her own feelings about things sometimes (this is because Fi is INFJ's critical parent function- it's probably INFJs second most prevalent function after Ni, but it is all subconscious, so she doesn't have an awareness of her own feelings sometimes, even though they are overwhelmingly there).[This point is actually one of the most fascinating things about INFJs to me].
Kumiko seems to have been deeply hurt by Shuiichi in the past. When infj is hurt, they can go into Ni-Ti loop to remain introverted completely (defense mechanism-bypasses Fe completely). Ni can also tell INFJ that they shouldn’t use Fe in a given situation- i.e. her cold shouldering Shuiichi all the time. She could have pulled a minor "door slam" on him too (look up "INFJ Door slam", we're apparently famous for it).
This is a part that I saw translated from the novel (not spoilery): Kumiko thinking about crushing a butterfly for the heck of it. Infj has a general fascination with violence- I personally hate it and yet it is fascinating to me at the same time. [Someone like INFP just doesn't have that].
As an INFJ, I literally had my INTJ roomate effectively tell me, “I want to rip that nice girl mask off you†(when I heard that line from Reina I was a bit startled). As INTJ are more prone to get at the nitty-gritty absolute truths, and INFJ wants to sugar-coat it usually (unless it’s a thinking type that I really like- then I’ll tell them my honest opinions), to Fi users, Fe users might come off as "fake".
Another translated quote from the novel essentially said: Kumiko feels like being around Reina is calming, she doesn’t have to play the social game and can be herself freely. [My sentiments exactly.]
INFJ seeks validation from others most strongly. She is so happy that Reina has seen this “horrible†side to her and validates it- even loves that about her.
Kumiko thinks its weird that Reina would cry over dud gold because, why would she ever think that the band would go beyond that? Ni-Ti logic.
Kumiko's overall extreme passion (which is concealed a lot due to Fe- but is still a very core part of her being). This passion shows itself best in that famous running scene where she's crying, and then yelling across the street to Shuichi. To me, this is a VERY enneagram 4 thing. Which, most INFJ's are 4w5's.
Sorry that the Kumiko section was so all over- I'm just super busy. If it needs clarification, please please ask me!! I think that INFJs are so under-represented in people's typings, not because they are not there, but because they are difficult to type. I want to defend the ones I see!
