The Need To Hate

[Cellmold]

Nah I never hate....wait a minute:

I hate sex, it's scary and weird to me.

All that teaches you is to hate humanity (which isn't so bad) and how to work on other tills.

Women don't hate me. A woman might hate me and I might hate a woman, but I won't hate a women because a women is too many to hate over a woman.

Oh nooo.

But there's more:

I hate laughter tracks....

I hate myself so much, I really do.

And I still hate it myself.

Looks like I hate and have a need to.

Probably stems from projections in fear of ones own ability to succeed while simultaneously obsessing over neurosis after neurosis under/as well as the premise of attention seeking in order to solve issues in yourself. With one of the bigger problems being that there is real evidence that confirms the hatreds and the issues are stemming from the individual and are wholly that individual's fault.

 

[Cygnus]

Peace is starvation. Contentment is prison. Synergy is slavery. Tolerance is submission.





Hell yes, I love hating things. I remember I used to stand up on tables and yell "I hate this!!" and "Carthage must be destroyed!!" yada-yada yammering rhetoric because I desperately desired to unite the people against some (nonexistent) common enemy just as an excuse to cause chaos and revolt. Never worked.

If you have nothing to oppose, you have no target on which to focus.

 

[Bush]

I don't have strong enough convictions to lead me to hate very much. Deriding, though, isn't off the table.

 

[senza tema]

I don't know. I'd rather be defined by what I love than what I hate. BUT I do have a short fuse and get easily irritated.

The closest analogy for me would be missing things to feel sad/blue/melancholy about when life is easy and pleasant and sunny. So yeah, I guess it may well be an enneagram thing.

 

[Z Buck McFate]

It's been a running joke since I was a teenager (and I'm sure others here have noticed). I'd make a statement saying "I don't like that", to be followed with the retort "Hard, you hate everything". At first I did not agree nor understand where they got that from. I was merely stating my opinion on something since it came up in discussion. Over time I first acknowledged that I am more apt to offer a dislike or disapproval than an approval or like (or at very least, the former in a stronger tone and emphasis). To adulthood where I have come to realize that I do hate a number of things. My opinions are quite strong and there is little in between. I still get jokes/prods about this to date from new people I meet. It's done in good fun though and I am not bothered by it at all.

I've kind of described it as "the need to hate". I just need things to hate, and my brain doesn't seem to allow otherwise. I can't explain it. It's almost as if something is missing, or I am lost if I do not have something to push against, dislike, or express dissaproval of, or in general, hate. Almost like I lack a purpose? If I go through long periods where there things are just peaceful, happy, and peechy, something sort of feels wrong and in a way, boring. When I am working against something I hate, it does stress me out at times, but it gives a lot of focus and in many ways is invigorating. In particular if I can get others on board with it.

I'm wondering if this a function thing (in particular Fe). It could be enneagram, or it could just be me. Either way, I wanted to open the discussion, see what peoples thoughts are, and if anyone else shares this to some degree.

Sometimes the need to hate things is a way to purge repressed anger (which I believe is e1's thing?). There's a defense mechanism called displacement- one of the ways it manifests is when we can't bear negative feelings we have towards someone (to acknowledge the feeling threatens our security in some way, it's not 'safe' to feel it), we direct that energy at another source (another person, or ideas, objects, etc).

I've done this myself, displaced excessive anger/hatred/disgust towards objects as a way to avoid feeling any hostility towards people I'm close to. Once I really, really hated an Amish quilt my ex's mom sent us for Christmas one year- stuff like that. It's clear to me in retrospect- distance makes it a lot easier for me to know who/what the anger was really about- but it wasn't clear to me at the time.

 

[Hitoshi-San]

I don't how someone WOULDN'T like people and things, and just be upset, disappointed, and disgusted by absolutely everything. There has to be some good to be found in at least some things.

I can only honestly say I hate a few people I know. And I would beat the shit out of them if given the opportunity, but I might still feel guilty. I don't know.

 

[ceecee]

I can only honestly say I hate a few people I know. And I would beat the shit out of them if given the opportunity, but I might still feel guilty. I don't know.

I hate one person. And I certainly would beat the shit out of them, if I had the chance. I know I wouldn't feel guilty. I didn't let go of the hate for this person or forgive and I have no intention of doing so. I do keep it on an apathetic level most of the time so I don't think about it much.

 

[Such Irony]

Nope, more than anything if I feel like I hate something I have to question why I do. But yeah can't relate at all, I don't need to hate stuff.

This. Exactly this.