Incompatibility of Myers Briggs Types

[rav3n]

ENTJ least compatible with: INTP

This is funny since my fiance is an INTP.

 

[Redbone]

Not incompatible but communication and understanding can come with higher hurdles that may be less likely to happen with other types. With some relationships, leaping these hurdles will be worth it and in others, it becomes a deal-breaker.

 

[Eric B]

I can relate to that. Except I don't care so much about power over others but I have a strong need to be independent and not be controlled by others.

Just curious; do you ever insist on having your way, or doing things your own way when with others? Or, persist and hold your ground in conflict? That's actually what I had in mind by "fighting for power". The very example I was thinking about was the battle I was in that occurred right here last summer, which had spilled over from somewhere else years ago, which you may remember (as you were briefly in that thread).
I wasn't trying to have power over anyone, just maintain my own ground against perceived disrespect, but I go about it in an aggressive, persistent way, where others would likely back off quicker.

For this blend, again, it's a bit different, because the Supine so tempers the Choleric, so that we're not directly going out to control others. Basically, Inclusion or the Interaction style covers how quickly we approach others, so it influences Control. Someone outwardly "controlling" is likely someone quick to approach others, which would likely be an extrovert (Sanguine or especially Choleric in Inclusion).

With this blend it would be once we are already in an interaction with someone, then we tend to want people to do what we want, or push to maintain our stance. And this would come from the iNtuition and Thinking together, because NT's have this strong sense of how things "should be", logically or impersonally.
This doesn't seem like "control of others", but (as I've been told for years) other people do see it that way.
And something like that is hard to see in onesself anyway —it feels more like part of the "not being controlled by others"; basically a more defensive "control or be controlled". That's certainly how I feel in those situations. So no, I don't "care for" power struggles either; I'd rather have peace, but this world won't give Supines/(Behind the Scenes) peace, so its like a necessary evil.

And again, you can even see some evidence in Keirsey's books.

 

[atlascatcher]

Interesting article...particularly the negative associated relationships between INFJ/ENFP and INFJ/ISTJ (but I'm biased because I've had extensive interaction with both of the latter types but only specific individuals). The tech facilitator of my college major is ENFP and we flat out do not get along. I stepped on her feet a bit by mistake my first couple weeks being there and she has never let it go. We always manage to butt heads without actually getting anywhere. In the Socionics system the relations between INFJ and ENFP have been labeled as extinguishment and I think it fits well.

On the other spectrum as far as INFJ and ISTJ, that's a different story with my own interaction. My father is also INFJ (has been "confirmed" or whatever you want to attribute administrative authority in the psychology field) and my mother is ISTJ (not professionally confirmed but she consistently tests as such and I can't see anything but SiTe). While I find some of her ways of dealing with the world absolutely absurd and could never see myself in a romantic relationship with someone like her, friendship-wise she is great. She also does the books in the family and keeps my father's spending on track and I think he has always been thankful for her knack of dealing with external logic.

 

[527468]

When people are compatible with opposite types, it is for reasons of being similar to / having more in common with that individual, than it is for MBTI reasons. You have slightly more compatibility with those who have the same preferences as you, and slightly less compatibility with those who have the opposite preferences from you. This fundamental truth goes far deeper into psychological factors than MBTI can ever go.

As you probably didn't realize, this is the same principle that Socionics has, the relationship typology. The types within each quadra are considered the most similar to one another, ie. All deltas are the Fi-Te-Si-Ne mindset and have in common their method of understanding the world and communicating. Similar minds in these theories are always more compatible, just how similar interests and similar opinions yield more compatibility. Even if we're attracted to someone because of our differences, it is similarity that gives us the foundation for relationship building.

Why I don't give credit to MBTI's "top 4" cognitive functions in compatibility is because the line of reasoning is obviously flawed and dependent not in of itself, but on the basis of dichotomal preferences. If you're really in to MBTI's cognitive functions and are skilled at pinpointing them in individuals, then more power to you for finding compatibility there.

Type and its average compatible types

ENTP with ENTP, INTP, ENTJ, ENFP

ENFP with ENFP, INFP, ENFJ, ENTP

INTP with INTP, ENTP, INTJ, INFP

INFP with INFP, ENFP, INFJ, INTP

INTJ with INTJ, ENTJ, INTP, INFJ

INFJ with INFJ, ENFJ, INFP, INTJ

etc.

 

[highlander]

I think the "dynamic opposites" can actually be pretty compatible. Take INTJ/ISFJ. I'm with an ISFJ. We are both introverts and judgers. Our 8 cognitive functions are in complete opposite order. We do think very differently. However there is an attraction of opposites. I think if there were a one letter difference - if she were an "E", it would introduce a dynamic that would cause things not to work though.

 

[prplchknz]

The type I'm least compatible with is ENTJ

that's from personal experience

 

[Such Irony]

Just curious; do you ever insist on having your way, or doing things your own way when with others? Or, persist and hold your ground in conflict? That's actually what I had in mind by "fighting for power".

Rarely do I insist on having things my way. It's more of a last resort tactic- when trying to reason and persuade the others as to the rightness of my point of view just doesn't work. Out of sense of fairness and consideration for others, I consider their opinions and points of view as well.

In conflict, how much I persist and hold my ground depends on the issue. Is it just a matter of differences in opinion? Then I'll explain the reasoning for my point of view but also know it may be unrealistic to change the person's mind and eventually just back off. At work, I have library users that violate policies like talking loudly on their cell phones or viewing porn on the computers. Confronting the wrongdoer often results my conflict and in those cases I will hold my ground since their actions also negatively affect other library users and the image of the library in general.

 

[chubber]

What do you say now [MENTION=5494]Amargith[/MENTION]?

 

[Amargith]

What do you say now [MENTION=5494]Amargith[/MENTION]?

About what, now?

 

[Doctor Cringelord]

Sometimes I think my marriage was doomed from the start. MBTI only seems to further reinforce that thought.

It can be quite depressing.

 

[chubber]

Chart-the-Course least compatible with Get-thing-Going
/ in other words: INFJ, ISTJ, INTJ, ISTP least compatible with ENFP, ESFJ, ENTP, ESFP

Uh oh

Well, this whole idea seems akin to opposing Socionics quadras and classical temperaments also being kinda opposed to one another.

There are also some stats out there relating type-type to relationship satisfaction. Somewhere..

About what, now?

Have a look at [MENTION=5578]garbage[/MENTION]'s post.

 

[Amargith]

Have a look at [MENTION=5578]garbage[/MENTION]'s post.

I don't know enough about socionics at this point to comment; mainly coz I seem to be identifying with IEI instead of IEE in that system for now.

 

[Eric B]

Rarely do I insist on having things my way. It's more of a last resort tactic- when trying to reason and persuade the others as to the rightness of my point of view just doesn't work. Out of sense of fairness and consideration for others, I consider their opinions and points of view as well.

In conflict, how much I persist and hold my ground depends on the issue. Is it just a matter of differences in opinion? Then I'll explain the reasoning for my point of view but also know it may be unrealistic to change the person's mind and eventually just back off. At work, I have library users that violate policies like talking loudly on their cell phones or viewing porn on the computers. Confronting the wrongdoer often results my conflict and in those cases I will hold my ground since their actions also negatively affect other library users and the image of the library in general.

I guess it would lie in the "persuad[ing] the others as to the rightness of my point of view". (Some other types really don't want to engage in that much at all).
This would be apart of what I'm thinking as well:

For me Ti can be really intense when it its curious about something and feels like it *has* to know why and *has* to have everything make sense and be logically sound.

(Ti is the most consistently "pragmatic" in that TP's are always apart of "pragmatic" temperaments {NT or SP}, which in my view is the "expressiveness in Control" I'm talking about).

I do consider the other's point of view as well, and often even state where they have a point. (But then proceed to show why it doesn't support their whole premise). And I too choose my battles.
(The library thing is basically authority that's been entrusted to you, so a Melancholy, Supine or Phlegmatic in Control would hold their ground as well).