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    Default Paths to wholeness, According to Personality Junkie

    ETJs: “Focusing on my personal feelings and values (Fi) will bring me wholeness.”

    EFJs: “Becoming more logical and independent (Ti) will bring me wholeness.”

    ITPs: “Securing love or public esteem (Fe) will bring me wholeness.”

    IFPs: “Being responsible, pious, and/or organized (Te) will bring me wholeness.”

    INJs: “Directly beautifying the material world or acquiring wealth (Se) will bring me wholeness.”

    ISJs: “Producing clever ideas or theories (Ne) will bring me wholeness.”

    ESPs: “Holding firm to my own theories (Ni) will bring me wholeness.”

    ENPs: “Acting dutifully, according to past precedent (Si), will bring me wholeness.”




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    Expecting people's needs for wholness according to their aspirational functions is pretty interesting idea. In theory, it shoudl really fit, but even though I can relate to some of IFP I mostly relate to EFJs in this one.
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    Working on inferior functions, or rather...those automated reactions we have towards certain triggers, is definitely a step forward in progress for an individual.

    I'm not sure I would put it the way he does though. Besides I tend to see functions as the best description we have on something we don't yet fully grasp, definition always comes behind the object of that definition and to me that object is the lashing out an individual who hasn't understood or isn't understanding what REALLY made them do that.

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    I think this guy has the right idea though I agree with @Polly about cross-overs. I'm INFP and I feel inclined to develop Te for the reasons the source mentioned. However I am also inclined to develop Ti so if I were at any time to implement my Fi model on to the world I would do it with precision but also so it is consistent with what exists. For example I would be apprehensive at making the world "worse" through a model which destroys something I could find potentially valuable (e.g. a piece of key technology which relies on a network of logistics for production which aren't sufficiently ethical) by not stopping to understand properly how it works or stopping to understand that it is the only reasonable way for it to be constructed. In a nutshell having the ability to properly measure and take into account all the aspects of an idea or a construction rather than just applying the most efficient method possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Standuble View Post
    I think this guy has the right idea though I agree with @Polly about cross-overs. I'm INFP and I feel inclined to develop Te for the reasons the source mentioned. However I am also inclined to develop Ti so if I were at any time to implement my Fi model on to the world I would do it with precision but also so it is consistent with what exists. For example I would be apprehensive at making the world "worse" through a model which destroys something I could find potentially valuable (e.g. a piece of key technology which relies on a network of logistics for production which aren't sufficiently ethical) by not stopping to understand properly how it works or stopping to understand that it is the only reasonable way for it to be constructed. In a nutshell having the ability to properly measure and take into account all the aspects of an idea or a construction rather than just applying the most efficient method possible.
    that seems very understandable..
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    Integrity is integrating all the parts of our mind. Integrity is a never ending project because we are constantly learning new things which must be integrated into what we already know.

    So learning new things requires us to rearrange everything we have learnt in the past.

    This is such an onerous work, most of us prefer neurosis to integrity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Qwan View Post
    ETJs: “Focusing on my personal feelings and values (Fi) will bring me wholeness.”
    I seem to observe those tendencies in the ETJs here, although I don't know any in life well enough to be able to comment.

    ITPs: “Securing love or public esteem (Fe) will bring me wholeness.”
    As dopey as that sounds, yup.



    IFPs: “Being responsible, pious, and/or organized (Te) will bring me wholeness.”
    I have known IFPs well enough to say that this is indeed the case.

    INJs: “Directly beautifying the material world or acquiring wealth (Se) will bring me wholeness.”
    I think there's also an emphasize on physical fitness or health, also. That could relate to beautifying the material world.

    ESPs: “Holding firm to my own theories (Ni) will bring me wholeness.”
    Not sure, ESPs are riddles to me. I don't get the way they think at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by msg_v2 View Post
    I'm seem to observe those tendencies in the ETJs here, although I don't know any in life well enough to be able to comment.



    As dopey as that sounds, yup.





    I have known IFPs well enough to say that this is indeed the case.



    I think there's also an emphasize on physical fitness or health, also. That could relate to beautifying the material world.



    Not sure, ESPs are riddles to me. I don't get the way they think at all.
    That was very insightful!
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    I like both the IFP and the INJ paths.

    IFPs: “Being responsible, pious, and/or organized (Te) will bring me wholeness.”

    INJs: “Directly beautifying the material world or acquiring wealth (Se) will bring me wholeness.”

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