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what are the core assumptions behind typology?

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let's break it down:
what are the core assumptions behind the enneagram?
what are the core assumptions behind MBTI?
 

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With MBTI, probably the idea that most people seem much like one of the 16 types, with few or none who are in between.
Probably quite central is the idea that person's tertiary or 4th function follows a pattern from 1st and 2nd.
 

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The core assumption is that, without gathering data, we can intuitively know our personality type, the personality type of our family, our friends, of celebrities and our pets.

It's an intellectual and moral failure to recognise that mbti and astrology are simply to manipulate the vulnerable and the gullible.
 

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The core assumption is that, without gathering data, we can intuitively know our personality type, the personality type of our family, our friends, of celebrities and our pets.

Why do you assume data isn't gathered by people when they type someone? When I type someone, I can always provide an explanation for why I think so. These explanations are based on data, unless you're excluding personal observations as data. Which gives you tenuous ground to stand on, as well.
 

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Intuition = big picture thinking

As long as I can break everyone of this misnomer regarding the theory, I will be just alright.
 

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Why do you assume data isn't gathered by people when they type someone? When I type someone, I can always provide an explanation for why I think so. These explanations are based on data, unless you're excluding personal observations as data. Which gives you tenuous ground to stand on, as well.

There are protocols for collecting scientific data - my guess is that they elude you.
 

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There is a genuine problem with ignoring the truth value of mbti or astrology. And that is we are primed to ignore the truth value of so many other things. So wish fulfillment, projection, and appearance take the place of truth.

And when we all do this together in one place, it becomes a powerful group delusion.

And so we are primed for group delusion in other areas of life. And we come to need a group delusion to function.

It's like addicts who congregate together to feel it is alright to shoot up; or like anorexics who congregate together to become thinner and thinner.
 

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Devito, where are you?

The central assumption of both systems is that personalities and psychologies are not universal across the human species. There are, however, certain patterns and guidelines that recur. Variation is not entirely infinite.

These patterns and guidelines are not confined to certain ethnic backgrounds or sex organs, and are more widely distributed than that.

It does not appear to assume where this variation comes from, and whether it is nature or nurture.
 

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That consciousness exists to the degree that cognition is polarised.
 

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This is why XKeyscore only has a three day buffer. Keep up the good work, gentlemen.
 

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The core assumptions by people too often get extrapolated too far out. They assume too much.
 

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It's a highly comic way of Judging people!
:truthy:
 

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Intuition = big picture thinking

As long as I can break everyone of this misnomer regarding the theory, I will be just alright.

Besides a big picture is completely contextual and personally relative. I no longer have any idea what the term even means apart from "this person is considering something that is either bigger/smaller than my considerations therefore I/her/him is a big picture thinker at this moment in time".
 

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Big picture is too vague, and isn't neutral enough.

A better example would be global/universal vs. local/specific. That's how I think of Ne vs. Se. I certainly don't think of it in terms of "smart" vs. "dumb."
 
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