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Typing your Exes

Julius_Van_Der_Beak

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I have an odd question about the friends with benefits thing, because I may have had a misconception. I don't know if it's appropriate to ask or not, but it stood out to me.

Anyway, it seems like the main issue for you with emotional connection is that you're primarily opposed to it when it's not reciprocated. It doesn't seem like you're opposed to it on principal. It seems like you're open to it when you feel it too. Would this be correct? If so, the process makes more sense than I thought previously, where I just assumed that people who did this were opposed to emotional involvement of any kind, which I always found puzzling. In a FWB situation, this is terminated when emotional connection develops because it's not mutual?

I realize it's a really fuckng weird question, but how else am I going to get an answer?

I'll need to run this data through my backup processors.
 

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Typing is so cool it is the perfect cover for our nastiest impulses. Typing is so cool we can indulge our cruelty without appearing to do so. Typing is so cool we can get our revenge while appearing to be innocently analytic. For appearance is everything here, and everything is just as it appears. Sweet.
 
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Typing is so cool it is the perfect cover for our nastiest impulses. Typing is so cool we can indulge our cruelty without appearing to do so. Typing is so cool we can get our revenge while appearing to be innocently analytic. For appearance is everything here, and everything is just as it appears. Sweet.

Isn't that the beautiful thing of being human, the endless classification?
 

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Typing is so cool it is the perfect cover for our nastiest impulses. Typing is so cool we can indulge our cruelty without appearing to do so. Typing is so cool we can get our revenge while appearing to be innocently analytic. For appearance is everything here, and everything is just as it appears. Sweet.

Do I need to post another picture of Danny Devito?

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Isn't that the beautiful thing of being human, the endless classification?

Some people consider classification to be the root of all evil. In some circles, it's trendy to think this way. They prefer being beasts, I suppose. I guess that's fine, but the problem is that they expect the rest of us to clean up the messes they cause.

Or maybe he's right, and I did feel perfectly normal and genuine until one day found out about typology, and then became a robot just because of a test I took.

Obviously all this logic shit is a front hiding some genuine self. This is why appearing "genuine" to others takes so much more work than using this logic. I'm glad we have so many people around to point out that instead of being so pretentious all the time, I can just be "real."
 

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enfp bf- one of my favorite people ive met seriously...he was my best friend. i knew without question how much this guy cared for me...i loved the way he saw me...and i liked who i was with him. i was always proud to be with him and loved how great he was with everyone i introduced him to. he was silly but so thoughtful and intelligent....just truly a beautiful person

...

What happened to this relationship?
 

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Typing is so cool it is the perfect cover for our nastiest impulses. Typing is so cool we can indulge our cruelty without appearing to do so. Typing is so cool we can get our revenge while appearing to be innocently analytic. For appearance is everything here, and everything is just as it appears. Sweet.

Oh no. I feel quite the opposite. It's like all of the things I've allowed myself to become annoyed with in others suddenly has a very good explanation, and those ways of dealing with the world that I don't understand are the very things that I'm missing and cause me to suffer sometimes. It really helps put the whole big picture of all the human puzzle pieces that make up our world in perspective.
 

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Oh no. I feel quite the opposite. It's like all of the things I've allowed myself to become annoyed with in others suddenly has a very good explanation, and those ways of dealing with the world that I don't understand are the very things that I'm missing and cause me to suffer sometimes. It really helps put the whole big picture of all the human puzzle pieces that make up our world in perspective.

THANK YOU. I'm not acting the way I am to fit some type. I acted like this before I ever found out about typology. Typology just provided context and an explanation of sorts. It was also nice to realize that I wasn't actually a weirdo, and that I am not in fact a special snowflake. Snowflakes melt.
 

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THANK YOU. I'm not acting the way I am to fit some type. I acted like this before I ever found out about typology. Typology just provided context and an explanation of sorts. It was also nice to feel like (less) of a weirdo, and that I'm not actually a special snowflake. Snowflakes melt.

Absolutely! That's the flip side of it too. I'm on the up-swing from a period of some real hatred toward certain parts of myself. It's really helped me in the self-love department as well.
 

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Wallowing

THANK YOU. I'm not acting the way I am to fit some type. I acted like this before I ever found out about typology. Typology just provided context and an explanation of sorts. It was also nice to realize that I wasn't actually a weirdo, and that I am not in fact a special snowflake. Snowflakes melt.

Scientology would do the same thing for you, not to mention Christian Science.

In fact almost any dodgy belief system would do the same thing for you.

Belief systems specialise in context and explanation. They explain so many things, even ourselves.

The next step, though, is to criticise the belief system that has colonised you.

This is emotionally and socially painful as it causes cognitive dissonance and social rejection.

Instead we can wallow in our arbitary belief system with no truth value.
 

Julius_Van_Der_Beak

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Belief systems specialise in context and explanation. They explain so many things, even ourselves.

And context and explanation is evil. Gotcha. Better to just flit through life like a drunken hummingbird, never learning from your own mistakes or that of those who went before you, because that's just a bummer.

The next step, though, is to criticise the belief system that has colonised you.

AGGGH NOT THE C WORD!

Anyway, I don't ever see you do this for politics. You fail to live up to your own standard, although this does not stop you from imposing it upon others.

I'm not responding to you in this thread until you pay the troll toll.
 

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I have an odd question about the friends with benefits thing, because I may have had a misconception. I don't know if it's appropriate to ask or not, but it stood out to me.

Anyway, it seems like the main issue for you with emotional connection is that you're primarily opposed to it when it's not reciprocated. It doesn't seem like you're opposed to it on principal. It seems like you're open to it when you feel it too. Would this be correct? If so, the process makes more sense than I thought previously, where I just assumed that people who did this were opposed to emotional involvement of any kind, which I always found puzzling. In a FWB situation, this is terminated when emotional connection develops because it's not mutual?

I realize it's a really fuckng weird question, but how else am I going to get an answer?

I'll need to run this data through my backup processors.
Lol. I will indulge your Ti. :)

Yes, you are correct. Sometimes one or both parties are opposed to it on principle, but it only makes sense to be opposed to something not being reciprocated. The other reason I would be opposed to it would be if I thought we had major points of incompatibility, or wouldn't last long term in a romantic relationship.

I'm becoming more open to relationships which are less than perfect though, as long as we get along. I'm letting go of finding a soul mate. If the ISFP and I become something, I won't be opposed to it even if we don't have a ton in common, just because it's nice to be with someone. But I certainly am trying to not hope for it, because I need to not psychologically need it.
 

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Some people consider classification to be the root of all evil. In some circles, it's trendy to think this way. They prefer being beasts, I suppose. I guess that's fine, but the problem is that they expect the rest of us to clean up the messes they cause.
Without classification, we wouldn't have biology. We wouldn't be aware of the vast array of species, what their characteristics are, and where they live. We wouldn't have the periodic table of the elements. We wouldn't have tax brackets, or blood types, or gifted programs in schools, or languages and different dialects, or know how reproduction worked because we would lack the concept of gender.
Obviously all this logic shit is a front hiding some genuine self. This is why appearing "genuine" to others takes so much more work than using this logic. I'm glad we have so many people around to point out that instead of being so pretentious all the time, I can just be "real."
Lol. :thumbup:
 

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Lol. I will indulge your Ti. :)

Thank you. It's a welcome change from being told it's evil, or distant, or useless, or pretentious or a waste of time. :)


Yes, you are correct. Sometimes one or both parties are opposed to it on principle, but it only makes sense to be opposed to something not being reciprocated. The other reason I would be opposed to it would be if I thought we had major points of incompatibility, or wouldn't last long term in a romantic relationship.

That also makes sense.

I'm becoming more open to relationships which are less than perfect though, as long as we get along. I'm letting go of finding a soul mate. If the ISFP and I become something, I won't be opposed to it even if we don't have a ton in common, just because it's nice to be with someone. But I certainly am trying to not hope for it, because I need to not psychologically need it.

It is nice just to be with someone. I don't regret my past relationships for that reason, even if I wouldn't repeat them. I dunno, I find that there are certain things I'm tired of always apologizing for. For once I want to try and have something in common with someone.

Of course, I seem to be really good at pretending that's the case even when it isn't.
 

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Without classification

When I went into a print based library, I found a card catalogue. And all the books were classified in the catalogue by card.

Today when I go into a RAM based library, I find a computer instead of the card catalogue. And the computer is not based on print, it is based on Random Access Memory.

In other words classification is now the content of Random Access Memory.

But as we drive forward we are still looking in the rear vision mirror of classification of people, when conversation with real people in real time is rushing towards us through the windshield of Random Access Memory.
 

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When I went into a print based library, I found a card catalogue. And all the books were classified in the catalogue by card.

Today when I go into a RAM based library, I find a computer instead of the card catalogue. And the computer is not based on print, it is based on Random Access Memory.

In other words classification is now the content of Random Access Memory.

But as we drive forward we are still looking in the rear vision mirror of classification of people, when conversation with real people in real time is rushing towards us through the windshield of Random Access Memory.

You don't know what Random Access Memory is. Moreover, most of the data is stored on a hard disk most of the time, not random access memory. Furthermore, within the hard drive, classification still exists. It exists in the human-readable data, and exists on every level down to the 1s and 0s.

I assure you RAM (or hard disks, which seems to be what you're referring to) would not be possible without classification.
 

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When I went into a print based library, I found a card catalogue. And all the books were classified in the catalogue by card.

Today when I go into a RAM based library, I find a computer instead of the card catalogue. And the computer is not based on print, it is based on Random Access Memory.

In other words classification is now the content of Random Access Memory.

But as we drive forward we are still looking in the rear vision mirror of classification of people, when conversation with real people in real time is rushing towards us through the windshield of Random Access Memory.
I'm not following this. Is RAM based on classification?
Edit: Oh, [MENTION=4660]msg_v2[/MENTION] already answered my question as I was typing.

Whatever. Your posts are poetry, and I should stop trying to make sense of them. They have lovely Fi-Ni meaningfulness. For people who like that kind of thing.
 

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You don't know what random access memory is. Moreover, most of the data is stored on a hard disk most of the time, not random access memory. Furthermore, within the hard drive, classification still exists. It exists in the human-readable data, and exists on every level down to the 1s and 0s.

I assure you RAM (or hard disks, which seems to be what you're referring to) would not be possible without classification.

Quite so.

But the difference now is that classification is now the content of RAM just as theatre is now the content of movies.

But look, classification, particularly the classification of people, is starting to look old fashioned and ugly, and out of touch with the electric world we live in.

Classification is no longer cool, classification is so yesterday.
 
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