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TiNi ISTP and TiNe INTP

RaptorWizard

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How do you tell the difference between a TiNi ISTP and a TiNe INTP?
(This thread isn't about me; it's about the 2 types in general.)
 

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Ni for an ISTP is tertiary, and not really the same as auxiliary, like an INTP's Ne. (though some will point out Jung spoke of both as "auxiliaries"). So it won't come out the same, aside from the fact that the orientation is opposite to begin with.
The tertiary won't be as confident and "parental" as the auxiliary. It's more about ego defenses and "relief".
Ni won't be about exploring multiple possibilities like Ne, but rather zeroing in on an internalized pattern to guage situations by. Ne is "informative" in communication (basically, softer or "light and airy"), while both Ni, when "preferred", in addition to S and T together, are "directive" (more serious and task focused).
So the whole style of interaction will be different. The Auxiliary being (supposedly) "underdeveloped" with the tertiary filling in, won't change all of this. (And not sure how accurate that is anyway; these so-called "loops" would likely be at certain times only, anyway, when a tertiary defense needs to fill in for a situation the auxiliary cannot solve).
 

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Ni for an ISTP is tertiary, and not really the same as auxiliary, like an INTP's Ne. (though some will point out Jung spoke of both as "auxiliaries"). So it won't come out the same, aside from the fact that the orientation is opposite to begin with.

Okay, so I guess for an ISTP Ni would be weaker and less naturally preferred.

The tertiary won't be as confident and "parental" as the auxiliary. It's more about ego defenses and "relief".

It is basically backup-mode then.

Ni won't be about exploring multiple possibilities like Ne, but rather zeroing in on an internalized pattern to guage situations by. Ne is "informative" in communication (basically, softer or "light and airy"), while both Ni, when "preferred", in addition to S and T together, are "directive" (more serious and task focused).

Ni then must be better at looking inside of something to predict its developments, whereas Ne will expand across an open horizon of ideas and constructions.

So the whole style of interaction will be different. The Auxiliary being (supposedly) "underdeveloped" with the tertiary filling in, won't change all of this. (And not sure how accurate that is anyway; these so-called "loops" would likely be at certain times only, anyway, when a tertiary defense needs to fill in for a situation the auxiliary cannot solve).

Ya, don't even get me started with these insane loop theories... people use them as an invented explanation that doesn't even work, kind of like saying "God did it" in religion.
 
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