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Cognitive Functions- where does the common concept of "intuition" fit in?

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The word intuition as used outside of MBTI can mean a number of things. It is how we perceive the world beyond our 5 senses, and also a combination of all of them. It is what our unconscious mind processes and sends to our consciousness for analysis.

Extroverted, we take in information from the environment. Introverted, we use a synthetic process to assimilate all of our stored information and extrapolate from the data.

But intuition can become confused with feeling. If you separate emotion from "feeling," how is it different from intuition? Fi can be "I feel like this is true," but Ni can also think this way. And Fi can tell you to do something for unexplainable reasons, but can "intuition"? Such as, I had a "feeling" I should go to the store today and not tomorrow, and found an item I needed on sale. Then something happened the next day to where I wouldn't have been able to go to the store. Or, I had a feeling I should take the main roads instead of the interstate and later found out there was a big traffic jam or a car wreck. Maybe it is your intuition telling you to stay out of a dangerous situation. If you let your intuition guide you this way, what function/s are you using?

My question is: how does the common usage of the word intuition fit into the CF framework?

Expect me to edit this post to make it more clear.


*Mods: If this thread could be in a better place, feel free to move it. I didn't see one specifically for CF's.
 

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The word intuition as used outside of MBTI can mean a number of things. It is how we perceive the world beyond our 5 senses, and also a combination of all of them. It is what our unconscious mind processes and sends to our consciousness for analysis.

Extroverted, we take in information from the environment. Introverted, we use a synthetic process to assimilate all of our stored information and extrapolate from the data.

But intuition can become confused with feeling. If you separate emotion from "feeling," how is it different from intuition? Fi can be "I feel like this is true," but Ni can also think this way. And Fi can tell you to do something for unexplainable reasons, but can "intuition"? Such as, I had a "feeling" I should go to the store today and not tomorrow, and found an item I needed on sale. Then something happened the next day to where I wouldn't have been able to go to the store. Or, I had a feeling I should take the main roads instead of the interstate and later found out there was a big traffic jam or a car wreck. Maybe it is your intuition telling you to stay out of a dangerous situation. If you let your intuition guide you this way, what function/s are you using?

My question is: how does the common usage of the word intuition fit into the CF framework?

Expect me to edit this post to make it more clear.


*Mods: If this thread could be in a better place, feel free to move it. I didn't see one specifically for CF's.

Common language says "feeling" when it really means "intuition."
 

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Yes. So, which CF is this intuition? Is it Ni which might tell you to do something unexplainable for your best interest?
 

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So you are sorta asking how Ni is different than Fi, no?
 

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Jedi master's sense skill trumps clone trooper's sneak skill!
 

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So you are sorta asking how Ni is different than Fi, no?

I guess. I mean they could both apply to "My intuition told me to do X," and I really want to know which one.
 

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Also I would see introverted intuition as looking into your own unconscious mind and seeing what thoughts and feeling lie there, but some might say that's Fi. But it could be Ni connecting to Fi and then sending it to Ti.
 

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Yeah, it's a good question. I'll have to ponder it.


On the surface, I think Ni processes a lot of different variables incoming in various forms, to try to find the one best truth or explanation. And Fi is more personal and subjective. I think it is the most subjective function, and strictly concerned with pure feeling, regardless of whether that feeling is felt for one brief moment in time, or is a recurrent theme. Fi's only motivation, I guess, is to fully consider a feeling, or the get to the heart of a feeling-state. Fi users can use this on others when proficient, and in a healthy frame of mind.


What do you think?
 

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Also I would see introverted intuition as looking into your own unconscious mind and seeing what thoughts and feeling lie there, but some might say that's Fi. But it could be Ni connecting to Fi and then sending it to Ti.

Ni Fi Ti? That makes you an INTJ/INFP/INTP, INTP being the balancing point and your overall type.

Of course that is based on my tritype theory which most experts would say is bogus, so idk.
 

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Ni Fi Ti? That makes you an INTJ/INFP/INTP, INTP being the balancing point and your overall type.

Of course that is based on my tritype theory which most experts would say is bogus, so idk.

This is exactly my theory, which most people are saying is bogus.

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Cool. I guess I use it a lot then. But probably not more than Ne. Hmm...INTX or INFJ...

I think it's a non-question that you're Ni-dominant.

I have that "little voice" too but I unfortunately tend to ignore it. I always regret ignoring it.
 

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Yeah, it's a good question. I'll have to ponder it.


On the surface, I think Ni processes a lot of different variables incoming in various forms, to try to find the one best truth or explanation. And Fi is more personal and subjective. I think it is the most subjective function, and strictly concerned with pure feeling, regardless of whether that feeling is felt for one brief moment in time, or is a recurrent theme. Fi's only motivation, I guess, is to fully consider a feeling, or the get to the heart of a feeling-state. Fi users can use this on others when proficient, and in a healthy frame of mind.


What do you think?

Sounds plausible. I don't really do this, so it makes me think I don't use Fi that much. I dunno. Maybe I use Ni like this...
 

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Yes. So, which CF is this intuition? Is it Ni which might tell you to do something unexplainable for your best interest?

Umm, that's Fi. To a Ni user, in their head, it makes sense, because it's a perception function- no judgement. Ni would gather what the situation is- Fi is what moves you to action. It's subjective, and personal, so the action, or outcome, made sense to the individual, where others would have reacted differently.
 

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I think it's a non-question that you're Ni-dominant.

I have that "little voice" too but I unfortunately tend to ignore it. I always regret ignoring it.

In making decisions this is true. But as far as my inner world is concerned, and how I respond to life, it seems to be different. But you might be right.
 

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Umm, that's Fi. To a Ni user, in their head, it makes sense, because it's a perception function- no judgement. Ni would gathere what the situation is- Fi is what moves you to action.

So Fi tells you to act on Ni? Then wouldn't they always go together? They aren't in INFJ.
 

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In making decisions this is true. But as far as my inner world is concerned, and how I respond to life, it seems to be different. But you might be right.

My Ti ignores Ni, because Ti is the decision-making function I use most of the time and it doesn't consider Ni to be a source of valuable information. But something else in me says that I ignore it to my detriment. Basically, it's turned out right too many times to be coincidence. The only times it's really helped me was when it physically moved my body, when it got the attention of an instinct that bypasses the thinking realm.

The inner realm of an Ni-dominant is another question.
 

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Ni Fi Ti? That makes you an INTJ/INFP/INTP, INTP being the balancing point and your overall type.

Of course that is based on my tritype theory which most experts would say is bogus, so idk.


How do you settle on the INTP as the balancing point?
 

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My Ti ignores Ni, because Ti is the decision-making function I use most of the time and it doesn't consider Ni to be a source of valuable information. But something else in me says that I ignore it to my detriment. Basically, it's turned out right too many times to be coincidence. The only times it's really helped me was when it physically moved my body, when it got the attention of an instinct that bypasses the thinking realm.

The inner realm of an Ni-dominant is another question.

In comparing ourselves, this could mean that we are different types, or it could mean that we are the same type (if you are INTP) and just developed differently and in different life situations. I have had to work to trust my intuition as much as I do. I've always followed it for survival though. Developing my intuition and psychic ability has been part of my Wiccan training. Everyone in our group has had to develop this function. So I'm saying pagans are different from the average person.
 
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