For Those Who Questioned THIS

[INTP]

In my address bar I simply type in define:lenient. The top definition states, "Permissive, merciful, or tolerant."

You feel angry cuz confused about stuff that is the reality? :-----DDDD

 

[Mal12345]

You feel angry cuz confused about stuff that is the reality? :-----DDDD

Silly face now huh. What next?

Te or Se for me says: you have failed, but only because your JCF failed you first.

 

[INTP]

Silly face now huh. What next?

Te or Se for me says: you have failed, but only because your JCF failed you first.

How did functions fail me?

 

[Mal12345]

You really dont seem like INTP, either ISTP, INTJ or ISTJ

I can seem like a lot of types. But because of the manner in which JCF ignores typing in terms of the J or P lifestyles and keeps them around for show, your attempts are only going to go around and around in circles. I've seen it happen enough times here.

 

[INTP]

I can seem like a lot of types. But because of the manner in which JCF ignores typing in terms of the J or P lifestyles and keeps them around for show, your attempts are only going to go around and around in circles. I've seen it happen enough times here.

JCF doesent type anything, JCF just stands for jungian cognitive functions, which are used in MBTI, jungs typology, lenores model, beebes model, JTI etc etc.

Maybe thats where you started going off? Not even knowing what JCF means..

 

[Mal12345]

JFC doesent type anything, JFC just stands for jungian cognitive functions, which are used in MBTI, jungs typology, lenores model, beebes model, JTI etc etc.

Maybe thats where you started going off? Not even knowing what JFC means..

I know what it stands for. What it means is up to the person. You're just nitpicking now.

 

[INTP]

I know what it stands for. What it means is up to the person. You're just nitpicking now.

Haha, you use the word JCF as if it meant something else that it does, this whole conversation has been because you use JCF as synonym for something that its not, actually this whole topic and some of your posts on other topics are also because of that too.

JCF doesent make any sense to you because you dont understand what its even about, therefore you discard it and go to stereotypes, which btw are useless since they only describe, and doesent explain..

 

[garbage]

God.. this thread turned to total hell in a hurry..

The signature types are from the cognitive functions test that gives three options. INTP was the first option and it was the correct one. But I don't discount the fact that I have other preferences that aren't as strong (or "developed"). I find it interesting that when I go on vacation and take the test, ISTJ (third option) is swapped for INFP.

TiSi is simply my dominant and tertiary.

OK, that's completely fair. It looks like some of us value a little bit of identity that one type in one typology system alone may not capture adequately.

I think the fear with any sort of label is that it'll be taken too far--whether or not it actually is--but I can agree that there's a certain degree that the labels should just be taken as metaphorical or approximate. Not every Socionics ILE is literally Don Quixote, and any ILE who gets riled up at calling him a fictional character would.. well, be completely missing the point. Anyone who wants such explanatory power out of these things will be disappointed..

 

[Mal12345]

Haha, you use the word JCF as if it meant something else that it does, this whole conversation has been because you use JCF as synonym for something that its not, actually this whole topic and some of your posts on other topics are also because of that too.

JCF doesent make any sense to you because you dont understand what its even about, therefore you discard it and go to stereotypes, which btw are useless since they only describe, and doesent explain..

Trying to tear me down might have the ability to make you feel better, somehow, if that's even possible. I could just analyze you and say it's just your "demon Fe" or whatever. Your attempts to poke me with your JCF and draw out motives and emotions that don't exist are laughable. I think it gives you a feeling of omniscience. I don't think it's so much that I'm not an INTP, but that I'm not an immature INTP such as yourself.

And if you had to wrap up your finger yourself in your avatar, which appears to be the case, then I feel sorry that you have such a poor socialist medical system in your country. If it happened to me, I would just go down to our local clinic, walk in and be seen in a few minutes, and pay very little money.

 

[Mal12345]

God.. this thread turned to total hell in a hurry..



OK, that's completely fair. It looks like some of us value a little bit of identity that one type in one typology system alone may not capture adequately.

I did most of this testing when "identity" was an issue for me, a couple decades ago. It is no longer an issue. I created my signature based on what others are doing with their sigs around here.

I think the fear with any sort of label is that it'll be taken too far--whether or not it actually is--but I can agree that there's a certain degree that the labels should just be taken as metaphorical or approximate. Not every Socionics ILE is literally Don Quixote, and any ILE who gets riled up at calling him a fictional character would.. well, be completely missing the point. Anyone who wants such explanatory power out of these things will be disappointed..

Well, you have accomplished what Mr. INTP himself failed to accomplish. You have managed to confuse me.

 

[Jaguar]

God.. this thread turned to total hell in a hurry..

Are you kidding me? I'm laughing so hard, I have tears in my eyes.

 

[garbage]

I did most of this testing when "identity" was an issue for me, a couple decades ago. It is no longer an issue. I created my signature based on what others are doing with their sigs around here.

Why do you think these others do it?

Well, you have accomplished what Mr. INTP himself failed to accomplish. You have managed to confuse me.

"Don Quixote" is an alternate label for the ILE type in Socionics. Don Quixote is a fictional character. The point is that

yeah, nevermind


I mean, you kind of expressed the potential danger in stereotypes yourself, like, just now.

Trying to tear me down might have the ability to make you feel better, somehow, if that's even possible. I could just analyze you and say it's just your "demon Fe" or whatever. Your attempts to poke me with your JCF and draw out motives and emotions that don't exist are laughable.

 

[Mal12345]

Why do you think these others do it?


"Don Quixote" is an alternate label for the ILE type in Socionics. Don Quixote is a fictional character. The point is that

yeah, nevermind


I mean, you kind of expressed the potential danger in stereotypes yourself, like, just now.

I shall try to toe the PC line better in the future.

 

[Anew Leaf]

I don't think either [MENTION=7595]INTP[/MENTION] or [MENTION=13589]mal12345[/MENTION] can both be INTPs. They are so dissimilar with absolutely nothing in common. Clearly only one can be the INTP winner here.

 

[Mal12345]

I don't think either [MENTION=7595]INTP[/MENTION] or [MENTION=13589]mal12345[/MENTION] can both be INTPs. They are so dissimilar with absolutely nothing in common. Clearly only one can be the INTP winner here.

I am older and have developed some different functions over time. Tertiary Si, as in my case, supposedly begins to develop during the 30s.

Also, if you're going by only this one thread's tiny sampling (or even more of the same stuff on this forum), I have thousands of posts on other forums going back to 1998 that may not even sound like the same person as I am today on this forum. I have posts where I have gone on endlessly and with extreme dryness, particularly on the topics of philosophy and Immanuel Kant.

 

[garbage]

I shall try to toe the PC line better in the future.

What are you talking about? Do you think I'm offended? All I did was (a) explain the Socionics analogy and (b) express your own argument against stereotyping.

I think that (b) deserves to be reconciled with the opinion expressed in the OP.

 

[Mal12345]

What are you talking about? Do you think I'm offended? All I did was explain the Socionics analogy and express your own argument against stereotyping.

I don't know if you're offended. But didn't you say I was stereotyping? I didn't see how I was, but if you say I was, then ok. I'll toe the line better next time.

 

[Anew Leaf]

I am older and have developed some different functions over time. Tertiary Si, as in my case, supposedly begins to develop during the 30s.

Also, if you're going by only this one thread's tiny sampling (or even more of the same stuff on this forum), I have thousands of posts on other forums going back to 1998 that may not even sound like the same person as I am today on this forum. I have posts where I have gone on endlessly and with extreme dryness, particularly on the topics of philosophy and Immanuel Kant.

hmm, would it be possible to have some samples of your earlier postings so that we can compare them to INTP's current style? I think [MENTION=7595]INTP[/MENTION] is in his early 20's, but I am not positive.

 

[garbage]

I don't know if you're offended. But didn't you say I was stereotyping? I didn't see how I was, but if you say I was, then ok. I'll toe the line better next time.

OK, maybe my point wasn't clear. My point was that you were against another member's potential for typology-based stereotyping, not that you were stereotyping. You outlined a potential strategy for someone to use typology to stereotype against you, which is presumably a bad thing.

 

[Mal12345]

hmm, would it be possible to have some samples of your earlier postings so that we can compare them to INTP's current style? I think [MENTION=7595]INTP[/MENTION] is in his early 20's, but I am not positive.

Indeed, I can identify with some of the thinking styles of the younger ones here. The optimism in being able to type someone with great almost automatic rapidity - that was me back in the early days. The INTP dogmatism, same thing, I found it is something that needs to be outgrown. If you care to, read the following on the INTP:

"As INTPs mature, they continue their quest for logical purity, but now it includes more balance in their activities. An INTP professor, well established in his career, balanced his life with hobbies that were intense and adventuresome. In the space of five years, he was involved in motorcycling, snowmobiling, cultivating tropical fish, setting up a state-of-the-art stereo system, sailing..."