Z Buck McFate
Pepperidge Farm remembers.
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^LOL. I totally didn't notice that. My whole post is a meta example of itself. Ha.
It can be like putting together a jigsaw puzzle. Out of the sea of facts and details, those that fit the still-empty spaces immediately stand out.We notice the "important" details because we have a very definite understanding of how something "works." If we see evidence that would confirm or deny that "working", prove or disprove that internal Ni model of the Se world, those details pop out almost magically. We pay very close attention to those details without even realizing we are doing so.
How typical is the highlighted of INTPs? My SO does this all the time (can't provide facts and examples), and it is one of the few things that just drives me round the bend.The biggest thing is when they 1) critique of my ideas in front of others, 2) don't provide support for that critique when pressed for examples or facts to back it up and 3) don't offer a solution. It feels like they are just making potshots.
An analogy I can give is that similar to how INTJs may have some difficulty expressing Ni immediately before having to translate both the content and structure of the ideas and thoughts into something that can be understood by others, INTPs can have a similar difficulty in expressing their critiques; they'll hinge on highly general and almost instinctual, non-verbal understanding of how an idea just doesn't work structurally but can't really find "facts and examples" immediately. It's just not the direction their minds work, it's as though you're asking them to go from 5th gear into reverse. The gears are going to grind. They'll get around to it. MaybeHow typical is the highlighted of INTPs? My SO does this all the time (can't provide facts and examples), and it is one of the few things that just drives me round the bend.
They say that N's aren't interested in details. From what I've suspected, Ni seems to have a very keen interest in them, they bring all the details together to reach the one "true answer." No detail is unimportant- everything like goes into their reservoir of information. It seems like people who I suspect are Ni doms and auxs couldn't do what they do without some level of focus on the small things.
True or false? Elaborate.
They say that N's aren't interested in details. From what I've suspected, Ni seems to have a very keen interest in them, they bring all the details together to reach the one "true answer." No detail is unimportant- everything like goes into their reservoir of information. It seems like people who I suspect are Ni doms and auxs couldn't do what they do without some level of focus on the small things.
True or false? Elaborate.
Less mature NJ's use examples because it's the most effective way of communicating to a world that is, primarily, filled with sensors.
If examples are the most effective way to communicate, aren't they actually a pretty mature thing to use? What would be better--perhaps analogies and metaphors, or perhaps not worrying about communicating at all?
They say that N's aren't interested in details. From what I've suspected, Ni seems to have a very keen interest in them, they bring all the details together to reach the one "true answer." No detail is unimportant- everything like goes into their reservoir of information. It seems like people who I suspect are Ni doms and auxs couldn't do what they do without some level of focus on the small things.
True or false? Elaborate.
Willy-nilly? Not quite. Relevancy is defined by the Ni user.Anyway, there's always gonna be an interplay between N and S. An Ni dom will just twist all the S stuff to fit in the N framework, throwing away details willy-nilly. At least that's what people tell me.
Willy-nilly? Not quite. Relevancy is defined by the Ni user.
If examples are the most effective way to communicate, aren't they actually a pretty mature thing to use? What would be better--perhaps analogies and metaphors, or perhaps not worrying about communicating at all?
They say that N's aren't interested in details. From what I've suspected, Ni seems to have a very keen interest in them, they bring all the details together to reach the one "true answer." No detail is unimportant- everything like goes into their reservoir of information. It seems like people who I suspect are Ni doms and auxs couldn't do what they do without some level of focus on the small things.
True or false? Elaborate.
Actually, I prersonally feel that concocting some huge, sweeping theory without ever checking to see if it matches reality is foolish - but that is a outside function theory.
When your head runs big your greatest fear is missing on a detail. Especially when building a circuit or mechanical device, just the forgetfulness of one small detail can provoke a chain reaction that does destroy the whole effort in a second. This fear can turn into obsession, I know it first hand
Maybe I was just referring to myself. It's easy to juxtapose examples (S) to illustrate conceptual distinctions (Ni) than it is to outright interpret them (Ti) for me.
They say that N's aren't interested in details. From what I've suspected, Ni seems to have a very keen interest in them, they bring all the details together to reach the one "true answer." No detail is unimportant- everything like goes into their reservoir of information. It seems like people who I suspect are Ni doms and auxs couldn't do what they do without some level of focus on the small things.
True or false? Elaborate.
That's one major reason why I never got into that kind of profession or hobby.
You shouldnt ignore that option completly. When the device works later its better than porn / real woman (substitute for convenience )