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Typology and Silent Number

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EXPLANATION

Silent number is first of all about loci.
What is loci?

LOCI

Loci is about space in a room.

A ROOM

When you take a bus, you try to find a room. If all the seats are taken, you cannot find a seat.
Why?

Because a room is not infinite. It is only a given quantity of space.
As far as MBTI is concerned, this is what follows.

If your first function is Fi, your 8th function is Te.
Why?

9 - 1 = 8

If your second function is Fi, your 7th function is Te.

9 - 2 = 7

etc etc

In other words, Ti and Fe share a continuum.

A continuum is a room. As said, a room is not infinite. It is only a given quantity of space.

The given quantity: 9.
Why?

Loci

+ 4 + 3 + 2 + 1 0 - 1 - 2 - 3 - 4
I'm really trying to understand what you are saying, but I can't make a bit of sense of it. There is some information required to interpret your explanation that I must not have. Every time you say "Why?" and then put a subtraction after it you lose me.

To me it looks like you might as well be writing...

If your first function is Fi, your fourth function is Fe.
Why?

12-19 = -7


I don't get how the subtraction explains your assertion in any way. I've read it like 4 times now.

Do we have a language barrier? Am I just flat missing it somehow? idk what is going on...
 

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I'm really trying to understand what you are saying, but I can't make a bit of sense of it. There is some information required to interpret your explanation that I must not have. Every time you say "Why?" and then put a subtraction after it you lose me.

To me it looks like you might as well be writing...

If your first function is Fi, your fourth function is Fe.
Why?

12-19 = -7


I don't get how the subtraction explains your assertion in any way. I've read it like 4 times now.

Do we have a language barrier? Am I just flat missing it somehow? idk what is going on...

This place will go down in a few minutes. I shall explain later. :)
 

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I'm really trying to understand what you are saying, but I can't make a bit of sense of it. There is some information required to interpret your explanation that I must not have. Every time you say "Why?" and then put a subtraction after it you lose me.

To me it looks like you might as well be writing...

If your first function is Fi, your fourth function is Fe.
Why?

12-19 = -7


I don't get how the subtraction explains your assertion in any way. I've read it like 4 times now.

Do we have a language barrier? Am I just flat missing it somehow? idk what is going on...

Thank you. I appreciate you effort. :p

Take pen and paper. Draw a circle.
Half the circle: draw a vertical line across the circle.
Write: F: at the top of the circle.
T: at the bottom.

Half the circle again: draw a horizontal line.
Write: I: on the left of the circle.
E: on the right side.

Mark a point, on the circle, in exact midway between I and F. Write: Fi.
Mark a point, on the circle, in exact midway between E and T. Write: Te.
Connect the points you marked. You have a continuum.
You see Fi and Te are the opposite ends of one continuum.

In the way of an analogy, mark Fe and Ti. Connect them.

Where does the continuum that units Fi and Te cut the continuum that units Fe and Ti?
In the middle of the circle.

Inference.

1. Fi and Te share a continuum. Fe and Ti share another continuum.
2. They cut each other in the middle.

The silent number (the middle point of the circle) does not function.
It counts.

Eight functions.
Nine loci.

If the first function is Fe, the eighth funtion is Ti. 9 = 1 + 8.
If the second funtion is Fe, the seventh funtion is Ti. 9 = 2 + 7.
If the third function is Fe, the sixth function is Ti. 9 = 3 + 6.
If the fourth function is Fe, the the fifth function is Ti. 9 = 4 + 5.

If your first function is Fi, your fourth function is Fe.

Where does the continuum A cross the continuum B?
In the middle of the circle.

T(9)/2 = 45
T(45) = 54

Complemention excludes.
Inclusion units.
 

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I think I actually get it. I drew a circle on my iPad and everything. :tongue:
 

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What is?

A thing in the loci.
Equilibrium is gravity.
A world is weights and measures.

I used to watch the paesants who sold their agricultural produce in the town market.
They had an old kind of measuring instrument.
A clever device. You do not see it any more.
Two cups.
A cup for the weight and a cup for the counterweight.

Understanding is a lost world.
 

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IndyAnnaJoan:

".. tertiary Fi is generally seen as INTJ's."

By whom, IAJ?

Whoever she is, she (or he) does not see that

E = - I
S = - N
F = - T
P = - J

1. Se; Ni
2. Fi; Te
3. Fe; Ti (Not Fi)
4. Si; Ne

5. Ne; Si
6. Ti; Fe
7. Te; Fi
8. Se; Ni

respectively.

4 - 4 = 0

Se
ESFP + 4
INTJ - 4

Ni
ESFP - 4
INTJ + 4

3 - 3 = 0

Fi
ESFP + 3
INTJ - 3

Te
ESFP - 3
INTJ + 3

2 - 2 = 0

Fe
ESFP + 2
INTJ - 2

Ti
ESFP - 2
INTJ + 2

1 - 1 = 0

Si
ESFP + 1
INTJ - 1

Ne
ESFP - 1
INTJ + 1
 

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The loci in the number is not the number of the loci.
Linear does not loci the number.
It numbers the loci..
 

Salomé

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Isaac Asimov, A.D. 1987:

"The Christian era has a flaw.
The year 1 is late in history.
Only a mathematician would see that as the most noteworthy flaw of the Christian era.

I like your model, in theory.

If only people obeyed the rules of Euclidean geometry.
How elegant the world would be!
 

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Only a mathematician would see that as the most noteworthy flaw of the Christian era.

I like your model, in theory.

If only people obeyed the rules of Euclidean geometry.
How elegant the world would be!

Exactly. Thank you, Salome!

And if only John and Linda, Lenore and Dario obeyed the rules of Euclidean geometry ..
How elegant our MBTI would be! :)
 

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Where does the direction turn?
In the divide.

NT

we have
12345678

we divide

1234 u-turn
8765

anterior: 1234
posterior: 8765

we divide the anterior

12 u-turn
43

we have

INTP Ti Ne ENTP
ENTJ Te Ni INTJ

Linear order is not the order of the loci.
It is the order of declension.

anterior linear order

INTP Ti Ne Ni Te ENTJ
ENTP Ne Ti Te Ni INTJ
 

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That's nice, and all, but why?

A good post.
Thank you, onemoretime.

Why is about how.
How is about where and what.

1. This is the Typology Central. Read: MBTIc. (where)
2. MBTI: The subject of this thread. (what)

Respectively. :)
 

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Still, though, what makes these connections important?
 

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Still, though, what makes these connections important?

The six in the nine.
2 X 6 = 12
(T)9/2 = 45

6 X 9 = (T)45

What comes around, goes around.

45 - 12 = 33
3 X 3 = 9

The answer to the questions:

why nine?
what middle?

1234 u-turn
8765

The silent number does not number?
0 = 9 - 9

The silent number does not loci?
9 = 9 - 0

The equilibrium (4 + 5) does not divide in number.
It divides in the loci.

4 + 5 = 4 + 0 + 5 = 9 - 0

check

495 = 501 - 6

(T)501 = 105

(T)6 = 60

105 - 60 = 45

check

150 - 6 = 144

144
72
36
18
09

check

45 = 105 - 60

12 = (T)21

105 84 63 42 21

60 48 36 24 12
 

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I was going to write the following:
"For your proof to be compelling, wouldn't you have to demonstrate that, for example, Ti and Fe are, in fact opposites?"

Then I realised my error. :)
 

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I was going to write the following:
"For your proof to be compelling, wouldn't you have to demonstrate that, for example, Ti and Fe are, in fact opposites?"

Then I realised my error. :)

I knew you would. :D
 

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Ti and Fe are opposites in kind.

The dichotomy of J.
A complementary parallellism:

Ti complements Fe:
Fi complements Te;

Fe complements Ti:
Te complements Fi.

A clock does not turn.

A quote.
"When the train leaves the station, you see the station move. Does the station move?"
- Albert Einstein

Why did you see the station move?
You were in the train.
Not in the station.
If the station had eyes, the train would have moved.

What moved, the train or the station?
Wrong question.
 

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Back to the basics.

22 = 33 - 11

4 = 1 + 3 = 3 + 1

13 = 22 - 9
31 = 22 + 9

(3 + 3) - 2 = (1 + 1) + 2


Draw a circle.
Divide it with a vertical line in the middle.

Imagine J on the left, P on the right.
Divide the circle with a horizontal line in the middle.

Sign clockwise:
On the left of the horizontal: sign 1
At the top of the vertical: sign 2
On the right of the horizontal: sign 3
At the bottom of the vertical: sign 4

22 = 34 - 12 = 43 - 21

Draw a crossline:
Connect the middle point of 1 and 2 with the middle point of 3 and 4.

Look at what you did.
 

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There is no outside measure.
Loci does not outside.
A circle is a unit.
The number of the loci is not the number in the loci.

(T)1 = 1 + 2 + 3 + 4
= 1 + 9

(T)1 + 1 = 24 - 13
(T)1 - 1 = 23 - 14

Draw a circle.
Divide the circle with a horizontal line.

You see two ends in the line.
Sign the ends.

You signed 1 at the left end?
4 - 1 = 3
You sign 3 at the other end.

Divide the circle with a vertical line.
Go clockwise.

You sign 2 at the top.
1 + 3 = 2 + 2
You sign 4 at the other end.

9 = 23 - 14 = 41 - 32

Watch the odd numbers at the middle on the left.
Do they change loci with the the odd numbers at the middle on the right?

The train leaves the station.
What moves, the train or the station?
If the train moves, the station does not move.
If the station moves, the train does not move.
 
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