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    Can anyone please explain the NiFi loop or personal experiences with it? This would sincerely be appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metaphor View Post
    Can anyone please explain the NiFi loop or personal experiences with it? This would sincerely be appreciated.
    Well, I don't actually know, but by the sounds of it, that loop would make it very hard to compromise your personal views at all. Ni and Fi are pretty stubborn.

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    Watch Victor..

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    Thanks for your input.

    Not sure if Ni is stubborn since it shifts perspectives like mad.

    My guess about Victor is that he's in a Ni-Si loop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metaphor View Post
    Thanks for your input.

    Not sure if Ni is stubborn since it shifts perspectives like mad.

    My guess about Victor is that he's in a Ni-Si loop.
    By continuously shifting perspectives Ni might not be stubborn.. But to the observer of Ni it can appear extremely stubborn because a practical,feasible and accurate solution already exists to most people. So that idea that someone keeps "looking" for more.. can seem extremely stubborn.

    Just saying.

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    I'd imagine someone prone to extreme conspiracy theories like the guy from King of the Hill.
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    Introverted functions in general are "stubborn" in the sense that they're largely insulated from the environment in terms their perceptions and judgments. They're based around the self and tend to not let externals define them.

    A Ni-Fi loop, is going to be a cyclical process in which the validity of the collective perceptions and perspective of Ni will be evaluated by Fi and can resemble the conspiracy theorist. The Ni-Fi user just "knows" of the truth/reality of something and feels only they are equipped or privileged enough to see it. Fi will tell Ni it's right based on personal feelings and values, while Ni will feed Fi nothing but internal perception and images for things to evaluate.

    Like anything in type, "looping" can be a healthy and rewarding process as long as it isn't terribly extreme. Loops aren't always negative.



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    Thanks for the more detailed explanations. This doesn't sound like what I'm experiencing so I'll expand on it.

    Imagine Ni attacking the internal database of values that Fi sources from, negating every value by shifting perspectives. Imagine Fi having nothing to source from, that everything previously valued, has no value or overarching truth to it. Fi has nothing to anchor to, since nothing is true. It's all about Ni's shifting perspective.

    The above is opposite of what's been explained, as it relates to the conspiracy theorist. Neither Ni or Fi has any truths, only perceptions and perspectives.

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    Good point, and that makes sense as to how you're describing it too. You can't be certain of Fi's conclusions simply because Ni can imagine perspectives where those conclusions are inconsistent with themselves or in error. So I assume one may feel lost.



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    Yes, I do feel lost, especially being a J. Looking for meaning and not finding it, since there are no truths. Don't know how you Ps stand this!

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