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Question for your Mr. BlueWing

proteanmix

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Additional thoughts:

Shouldn't SiFe produce a Fi effect and SeFi produce Fe? I'm not understanding what you mean when you say Fi effects. If it holds true for one I'm thinking it should hold true for the other. Are you saying this is true across the board or just with N-types? So NeTi/SeTi should look like Te and NiTe/SiTe should look like Ti (but I don't think you're going to go for that ;)).

I do think that certain function combinations mimic others so I understand general principle of what you're saying.

BTW, I'm not trying to be a smartass. I genuinely want to know what you think.
 

arcticangel02

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If you say that NiFe produces a Fi effect, then shouldn't it be possible for NeFi to produce a Fe effect?

Thanks for making the answer intelligible and not 27 pages. :)

Although my knowledge is extremely limited, I would like to point to that other thread where people posted their cognitive processes results.

extraverted Intuiting (Ne) ** (49.9)
excellent use
introverted Intuiting (Ni) ** (29.7)
average use

extraverted Feeling (Fe) ** (58)
excellent use
introverted Feeling (Fi) ** (31.8)
good use


extraverted Intuiting (Ne) ** (43.2)
excellent use
introverted Intuiting (Ni) ** (34.8)
good use

extraverted Feeling (Fe) ** (39.8)
excellent use
introverted Feeling (Fi) ** (40.9)
excellent use

extraverted Intuiting (Ne) ** (36.1)
excellent use
introverted Intuiting (Ni) ** (28)
average use

extraverted Feeling (Fe) ** (50.4)
excellent use
introverted Feeling (Fi) ** (37.4)
excellent use

extraverted Intuiting (Ne) (35.4)
good use
introverted Intuiting (Ni) (26.2)
average use
extraverted Feeling (Fe) (41.4)
excellent use
introverted Feeling (Fi) (40.6)
excellent use

All four ENFPs who posted their scores got as high an Fe score as their Fi, often even higher.

I don't know whether that's a defect in the test or our inability to read the questions properly, but it seems like a fairly important trend.
 

SolitaryWalker

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If you say that NiFe produces a Fi effect, then shouldn't it be possible for NeFi to produce a Fe effect?

Thanks for making the answer intelligible and not 27 pages. :)

Yes for both cases. However, the Si-Fe effect is more akin to the Fi observed in ISFPs rather than in INFPs.
 

proteanmix

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Although my knowledge is extremely limited, I would like to point to that other thread where people posted their cognitive processes results.

All four ENFPs who posted their scores got as high an Fe score as their Fi, often even higher.

I don't know whether that's a defect in the test or our inability to read the questions properly, but it seems like a fairly important trend.

Yes thank you for pointing that out. I remember thinking this when I saw that thread and also it's part of my difficulty in telling ENFJs from ENFPs even though these types have no functions in common.

So now, I'm wondering how much of this is due to both types being extroverts and therefore picking up the language of Fe or is this something else.

Yes for both cases. However, the Si-Fe effect is more akin to the Fi observed in ISFPs rather than in INFPs.

Well, I got what I asked for!
 
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