How would the world be without Ti?

[Qre:us]

Ti is the razor's edge - with it, ideally, a system or model [including human-models] is understood to its finest relevant detail, with such precision that the understanding is air-tight. No holes, no internal inconsistency, and the system has been attacked from every conceivable angle, to see how/why it is the system that it is. Or, challenged accordingly. It often leads to, ".........therefore, only one logical conclusion is left standing given X."

 

[Sesshoumaru]

That's right! The most logic of all functions!

 

[Qre:us]

That's right! The most logic of all functions!

What? No.

That's not what I said.

 

[Sesshoumaru]

In a way, that's what can be understood from there, not that you said it, but that is the consequence... The complete understanding of anything is lead by the logic behind it!

 

[Glycerine]

Uh oh... trouble's a-lurking.

 

[Qre:us]

In a way, that's what can be understood from there, not that you said it, but that is the consequence... The complete understanding of anything is lead by the logic behind it!

It's essentially a very involved processing of, "Does it add up?"

As such, if the premise you start with, the "it", is flawed itself, and/or if you are not aware of the assumptions you're making with the premise, then Ti being subjective, can be led quite astray. This is when a rigorous Ti-user might do meta-analysis on all the likely premises themselves, for its validity to a situation, until one premise is left standing. And, conclusions can thus be confidently drawn.

Occam's Razor may also be relevant. As are "If/then" statements.

 

[lunalum]

The world would make none, without Ti.

Everything would be perceived in a way similar to the way we perceive this picture, minus the attempt to make sense of it a second afterwards.

Pretty much chaos, perhaps a lot of fun and unicorns...

 

[Sesshoumaru]

It's essentially a very involved processing of, "Does it add up?"

As such, if the premise you start with, the "it", is flawed itself, and/or if you are not aware of the assumptions you're making with the premise, then Ti being subjective, can be led quite astray. This is when a rigorous Ti-user might do meta-analysis on all the likely premises themselves, for its validity to a situation, until one premise is left standing. And, conclusions can thus be confidently drawn.

Occam's Razor may also be relevant. As are "If/then" statements.

Seems expresed in different words, but true... the only part is that maybe no premise will be standing alone at the end, in which it may be that all of them end up being false... and make us kind of depressed after that... or even worse, when you find your model not fitting, or not able to be demonstrated... that's depressing for INTPs, right? At least for me...

 

[Quinlan]

Salem circa 1692

 

[William K]

So Ti caused the extinction of unicorns?

 

[Speed Gavroche]

A world without Ti would actually just be a world without any peoples able to understand the world logically. There would never had anybody to understand how to build tools with flints or to master the fire. We would never had supassed the animal status. But it still be Te there, so we were just animals, with pure instincts and able to conquer and control territories. But of course, humans are weaker animals, and without Ti, humans would have probably never survived because Ti is what allow to humans to surpass animals by gaining leverage on the world because of their logical understanding.

 

[Sesshoumaru]

A world without Ti would actually just be a world without any peoples able to understand the world logically. There would never had anybody to understand how to build tools with flints or to master the fire. We would never had supassed the animal status. But it still be Te there, so we were just animals, with pure instincts and able to conquer and control territories. But of course, humans are weaker animals, and without Ti, humans would have probably never survived because Ti is what allow to humans to surpass animals by gaining leverage on the world because of their logical understanding.

True, very true. Not being able to think outside the box or creatively would never lead to inventions, thus we would be living as cavemen, though Ti is also present-oriented, so we would let pass lots of opportunities in certain things because our analysis of the "now" would be inexistent! Which is complimentary to what I wrote earlier.