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Catch-22

wildcat

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The Shadow

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The line of nine loci:

Nine on the line of nine loci is a component of the dichotomy of ten. The shadow of nine therefore is: 10 - 9 = 1. On the line.
Stay on the line. Eight on the line of nine loci is a component of the dichotomy of ten.
The shadow of eight therefore is: 10 - 8 = 2. On the line.
Stay on the line. The shadow of 7: 10 - 7 = 3. The shadow of 6: 10 - 6 = 4. m does not shadow.

The line of eight loci:

Eight on the line of eight loci is a dichotomy of nine. 9 - 8 = 1; 9 - 7 = 2; 9 - 6 = 3; 9 - 5 = 4. Nine is an odd number: no m in the number.

The line of seven loci:
On the line of seven loci 7 is a component of the dichotomy of eight. 8 - 7 = 1; 8 - 6 = 2;
8 - 5 = 3. m does not shadow.

The line of six loci:
1 + 6 = 7; 7 - 6 = 1; 7 - 5 = 2; 7 - 4 = 3. An odd number (7) does not m.

The line of five loci:
A dichotomy of six. 6 - 5 = 1; 6 - 4 = 2; m = 6/2 = 3. No shadow.

The line of four loci:
A dichotomy of 4 + 1. 5 - 4 = 1; 5 - 3 = 2

The line of three loci:
A dichotomy of four. 4 - 3 = 1. m does not shadow.

The line of two loci:
A dichotomy of three. 3 - 2 = 1. The shadow of 3 = 1. An odd number does not center in number.

The line of one loci.
A dichotomy of two. m does not shadow.
 

wildcat

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And the common sense part is knowing when to add, subtract, divide, and multiply ;) I need me some common sense.
It is the position in the context of the whole that determines the action.
We can call it common sense. Well put. :)
 

ThatsWhatHeSaid

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1. I don't understand what the space of zero means.
2. I don't understand what the numbers have to do with typology.
3. I don't understand what the connection is between the different matrices.

Can you explain?
 

Poki

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1. I don't understand what the space of zero means.
2. I don't understand what the numbers have to do with typology.
3. I don't understand what the connection is between the different matrices.

Can you explain?

Its a way of understanding what is around us in a very subjective yet logical manner.
 

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Explain...

A connection has been made between ordering/rearranging of the numbers and the ordering of the shadow functions. Think visual spatial in a sense. They fit the same logical framework and he is basically proving that they fit. Once we understand the framework in which they fit we can then basically dance with it.

With me my strength is thereoms as opposed to the type of math that wildcat uses. I shift and rearrange in a different manner then he does.
 

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Ok, Wildcat, I think I am in love with you. I can't remember when I was last so fascinated. I catch little glimmers here and there but that's all. The glimmers are exciting, though.

What is this kind of math called?
 

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Ok, Wildcat, I think I am in love with you. I can't remember when I was last so fascinated. I catch little glimmers here and there but that's all. The glimmers are exciting, though.

What is this kind of math called?

Lol, I think its called wildcat math ;)
 

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Thank you poci, Tiltyred and ThatsWhatHeSaid.

Poci explained the thing from the objective standpoint. I could not have done it better.
I fill some details only.

What the numbers have to do with typology?
There is the play and the field. The numbers of the loci is the field. The numbers in the loci is the play.


The space of the zero. A good question.

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How many loci?
5 X 5


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How many loci?
1 X 1


The typology has a long history. It started with the Greeks. We have the postulation of Jung and Eysenck and many others.
The MBTI is not a thing apart. The whole is in the part.
 

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Metonymy and synecdoche, but with numbers.
 

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Metonymy and synecdoche, but with numbers.

Actually those that do not like playing will usually get frustrated. This (wildcat math) is so far out of my understanding that its neither playing nor for a purpose for me. I can understand the concept, but not the details. I have to take a high level approach and reach an understanding in a different area. Basically from an objective approach. From this I can find a connection between how he thinks and what he is doing and how I think and operate. The other approach is to just blow it off because I cant "see" what he is saying. But then I miss what he is doing. To me this is becoming closed off, when that person forces themself to be closed off then it becomes stubborn. It becomes one sided and you can no longer play freely. At this point it becomes a challenge to work around this one stuck variable, the stuck variable being that one thing which is being held as stubborn.
 

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Actually those that do not like playing will usually get frustrated. This (wildcat math) is so far out of my understanding that its neither playing nor for a purpose for me. I can understand the concept, but not the details. I have to take a high level approach and reach an understanding in a different area. Basically from an objective approach. From this I can find a connection between how he thinks and what he is doing and how I think and operate. The other approach is to just blow it off because I cant "see" what he is saying. But then I miss what he is doing. To me this is becoming closed off, when that person forces themself to be closed off then it becomes stubborn. It becomes one sided and you can no longer play freely. At this point it becomes a challenge to work around this one stuck variable, the stuck variable being that one thing which is being held as stubborn.
Thanks poci and Tiltyred.
I shall try another approach. We shall not leave the numbers. We shall leave the method.

FUNCTION ORDER

Dichotomy of 1
Functions unfound.
Number: 2 X 0
Variables: None

Dichotomy of 3
33 = 12 + 21
Functions found.
Loci: 2 X 2
Number: 2 X 1
Variables:
3 - 1 = 2
3 - 2 = 1

chart

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Dichotomy of 5
55 = 12 + 43 = 34 + 21 = 21 + 34 = 43 + 12 = 23 + 32 = 14 + 41
Functions found.
Loci: 4 X 4
Number: 2 X 2
Variables:
5 - 4 = 1
5 - 1 = 4
5 - 2 = 3
5 - 3 = 2

chart

1234
2143
3412
4321
 

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Dichotomy of 7
777 = 654 + 123 = 456 + 321 = 546 + 231 = 132 + 645 = 465 + 312 = 213 + 564
Functions found.
Loci: 6 X 6
Number: 2 X 3
Variables:
7 - 1 = 6
7 - 2 = 5
7 - 3 = 4
7 - 4 = 3
7 - 5 = 2
7 - 6 = 1

chart

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654321
 

ThatsWhatHeSaid

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A connection has been made between ordering/rearranging of the numbers and the ordering of the shadow functions. Think visual spatial in a sense. They fit the same logical framework and he is basically proving that they fit. Once we understand the framework in which they fit we can then basically dance with it.

What? How? And how does the math actually relate at all? And what happening with these matrices anyway?
 

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This one we had before.


Dichotomy of 9 (MBTI)

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5 X 9 06 X 9 u-turn
4 X 9 07 X 9
3 X 9 08 X 9
2 X 9 09 X 9
1 X 9 10 X 9

9999 =

8765 + (T) 4321 =
3852 + (T) 7416 =
2583 + (T) 6147 =
5678 + (T) 1234

Functions found: 8 X 8
Number: 2 X 4
Variables:

9 - 1 = 8
9 - 8 = 1
9 - 2 = 7
9 - 7 = 2
9 - 3 = 6
9 - 6 = 3
9 - 4 = 5
9 - 5 = 4

chart

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