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    Quote Originally Posted by whatever View Post
    so this goes back to the question of "is the whole a thing unto itself or a composite of it's parts?"
    So how do we figure out if we have a part or a whole? We know not what we cannot see.
    Im out, its been fun

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    This is interesting, however it seems like you forgot than

    0 = ( ... ((192000 * (1+6.75/100/12)-x) * (1+6.75/100/12)-x) ... )
    (expanding the products)
    = 192000*(1+6.75/100/12)^(28*12) - (1+6.75/100/12)^(28*12-1)*x - (1+6.75/100/12)^(28*12-2)*x - ... - x
    (simplifying with the Geometric Series formula)
    = 192000*(1+6.75/100/12)^(28*12) - [(1+6.75/100/12)^(28*12)-1] / [(1+6.75/100/12)-1] * x
    so
    x = 192000 * (6.75/100/12) / [1-(1+6.75/100/12)^(-28*12)] = 1273.40
    The total amount payed over the life of the loan is:
    1273.40 * 12 * 28 = 427860.94

    and
    0 = (...((199000 * (1+2/100/12)-x) * (1+2/100/12)-x) * ... * (1+4.875/100/12)-x)
    = 192000 * (1+2/100/12)^(12*5) * (1+3/100/12)^(12) * (1+4/100/12)^(12) * (1+4.875/100/12)^(12*23)
    - x * [(1+2/100/12)^(12*5-1) * (1+3/100/12)^(12) * (1+4/100/12)^(12) * (1+4.875/100/12)^(12*23)
    + (1+2/100/12)^(12*5-2) * (1+3/100/12)^(12) * (1+4/100/12)^(12) * (1+4.875/100/12)^(12*23)
    + ... + 1]
    So (getting lazy and using a spreadsheet - it could be done with 4 different geometric series, but that calculation is still large):
    x = 913.18
    and the total payments over the life of this loan total:
    913.18 * 12 * 30 = 328744.80


    Now you gotta restart everything

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    Quote Originally Posted by poki View Post
    So how do we figure out if we have a part or a whole? We know not what we cannot see.
    How did Einstein find a solution to his practical problem when he was working in the patent office?
    By working out his universal theories.
    The part is in the whole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coco View Post
    This is interesting, however it seems like you forgot than

    0 = ( ... ((192000 * (1+6.75/100/12)-x) * (1+6.75/100/12)-x) ... )
    (expanding the products)
    = 192000*(1+6.75/100/12)^(28*12) - (1+6.75/100/12)^(28*12-1)*x - (1+6.75/100/12)^(28*12-2)*x - ... - x
    (simplifying with the Geometric Series formula)
    = 192000*(1+6.75/100/12)^(28*12) - [(1+6.75/100/12)^(28*12)-1] / [(1+6.75/100/12)-1] * x
    so
    x = 192000 * (6.75/100/12) / [1-(1+6.75/100/12)^(-28*12)] = 1273.40
    The total amount payed over the life of the loan is:
    1273.40 * 12 * 28 = 427860.94

    and
    0 = (...((199000 * (1+2/100/12)-x) * (1+2/100/12)-x) * ... * (1+4.875/100/12)-x)
    = 192000 * (1+2/100/12)^(12*5) * (1+3/100/12)^(12) * (1+4/100/12)^(12) * (1+4.875/100/12)^(12*23)
    - x * [(1+2/100/12)^(12*5-1) * (1+3/100/12)^(12) * (1+4/100/12)^(12) * (1+4.875/100/12)^(12*23)
    + (1+2/100/12)^(12*5-2) * (1+3/100/12)^(12) * (1+4/100/12)^(12) * (1+4.875/100/12)^(12*23)
    + ... + 1]
    So (getting lazy and using a spreadsheet - it could be done with 4 different geometric series, but that calculation is still large):
    x = 913.18
    and the total payments over the life of this loan total:
    913.18 * 12 * 30 = 328744.80


    Now you gotta restart everything
    I have to find a new MBTI ?

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    Do we have loci in between of 1 and T(1)?
    10 - 9 = 1
    Not in the continuum of 1 and T(1)

    01 u-turn
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    90 81 72 63 54

    loci
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    9:8

    98
    89

    100 - 89 = 11
    100 - 98 = 02

    11 - 2 = 9

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    And God created blah blah.

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    Stage 3. The second dichotomy

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    Stage 4. The third dichotomy.

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    Stage 5. The fourth dichotomy

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    I have no idea what's going on...?

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