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    INTJs, with no close competitors.

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    From my experience, INTJs are the most introverted type (independent). INTPs seem pretty social.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pitseleh View Post
    From my experience, INTJs are the most introverted type. INTPs seem pretty social.
    I feel underdeveloped....

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    Extroverts might get CHARGED by interactions with other people, but that doesn't mean they NEED it.

    Just like introverts might get DRAINED by interactions with other people, but that doesn't mean they are ANTISOCIAL.

    Outside of MBTI, the most independent types are 7w8/8w7.

    Neither really give a fuck what anybody else thinks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halla74 View Post
    Extroverts might get CHARGED by interactions with other people, but that doesn't mean they NEED it.
    Well, they kinda do need occasional social interaction (what with the whole "isolation is draining" thing and all), but extroverted loners and misanthropes do exist -- they're usually ENTP. Generally those people approach other people with the purpose of annoying them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Craft View Post
    I feel underdeveloped....
    Dang it. I knew I should have clarified. From my limited observations, INTPs seem much more likely to engage others in conversations than INTJs. INTJ conversations seem very short and to the point while INTP conversations seem very tangential and will go and go if you give them enough fodder. Of course, this is just from one ENFJ's perspective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    2 questions:

    1 How Fi is independent? Does'nt Fi implies to be dependent of what the Fi user values?

    2 How would you define the word "independent"?

    I'd say the most independent types are INTJ>ISTP>ESTP>INTP>ENTP>ENTJ>INFP>ISFP>ESFP>INFJ> ENFJ>ENFP>ISTJ>ESTJ>ESFJ>ISFJ more or less in that order.
    Isn't Ti dependent on what the Ti-dom accepts as logical? But it's the Ti-dom's own logic, right?

    Fi values are based on internal feelings. So Fi is "dependent" on itself - which makes it independent.

    I'm thinking independent to mean low reliance on & influence from people & the external realm in general. Someone who does many/most things alone & is happy/prefers to, turns inward for stimulation, not easily influenced by other people's views - but has created many of his own views separate from his environment, figures things out & accomplishes a lot without much or any help, and is his "own person" - meaning unique.

    Someone who is extreme in this way is really NOT admirable or healthy, IMO. It can make someone needlessly rebellious, arrogant, and detached.
    Independence can be & often is overrated. I find it admirable when someone has the humility to ask for help from others.
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    i skipped over a lot of this thread... sowwy...

    i feel like i'm a pretty independent person. i don't know if that is due to my personality type or other external values. but i don't feel as happy, as confident in who i am or what i am or anything i do, or as sane if i don't have my independence. i don't like being reliant on others, or others being reliant on me... i don't like constantly being bombarded by others... i like to be able to do what i feel like doing, when i feel like doing it. i like to sit at home in silence, with no one else around. i prefer my style to the style of the masses. and likewise for my values and morals. i view my life as a path in which only i am living out, and therefore feel as though i am a loner. i get along with others just fine, but i often prefer to not be in social situations, except on rare occasions. i like car rides, and plane rides and etc alone. so, i suppose depending on your definition of independent... ISFP's are right up there. another quality of ISFP's is the lack of desire to lead or be lead, which also leads us to be independent people. we aren't the hermits, but we are the lone travelers. or at least, i think we ISFP's as a group are. but, there could be another ISFP who disagree's here with me on that.
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    |quote]Fi is dependent on values but that's kind of stretching the meaning of dependency in this context. I was under the impression that dependency here meant in reference to making decisions that are necessarily mindful of other people. Which would not be Fi. Fi is the most likely function to tell people to go fuck themselves, if necessary. Just to put it in lamen's terms at least (Fi is not always telling people that or anything ). It's introverted judging, and can thrive without reference to friends, social norms, what you or your mom think is right, or caring to even justify itself with a logical explanation either. That isn't to say I think it's the most independent, once you line all functions up... but you will find a streak of independence in every SFP or NFP.[/quote]

    Yes I see. This is because I'm myself a big Fi user (that is correlated with my enneagram) and sometimes I hate it because I feel like I value something and so I need it, and I think that if did'nt feel anything, I would be free. Sounds dependant for me. At the same time that drive me to want things wich are different that the group values and I'm not ready to make any concessions. In that way, Fi sounds independant.

    Isn't Ti dependent on what the Ti-dom accepts as logical? But it's the Ti-dom's own logic, right?
    Proof that I'am a Ti dom. I don't feel dependant of Ti at all, it's just the most natural way to act.

    Fi values are based on internal feelings. So Fi is "dependent" on itself - which makes it independent.

    I'm thinking independent to mean low reliance on & influence from people & the external realm in general. Someone who does many/most things alone & is happy/prefers to, turns inward for stimulation, not easily influenced by other people's views - but has created many of his own views separate from his environment, figures things out & accomplishes a lot without much or any help, and is his "own person" - meaning unique.
    Yes, I relate to this.

    Someone who is extreme in this way is really NOT admirable or healthy, IMO. It can make someone needlessly rebellious, arrogant, and detached.
    Argh, I tend a little to be like that.

    Independence can be & often is overrated. I find it admirable when someone has the humility to ask for help from others.
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    I have a very hard time believing the argument that any F type would be "the most independent."

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