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Can anybody relate to this ?

Coriolis

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1. Do you think that there is a point in planning events that are outside of your life span ?
Yes, but I am usually too busy working on somewhat shorter term plans actually to do it, except for having a will.

2. When you have a 20 not overy complicated scenarios you need no more than 5-10 seconds to figure out a few of them that are most likely. (and you are rarely wrong)
I don't usually have so many scenarios, but yes, they usually sort themselves out quickly from least to most likely. I like to include a contingency for the worst case, but not at the expense of the most likely case(s).

3. You often can't sleep because you can't turn off your brain? So sometimes you spend entire night thinking.
At times. Meditation and certain types of music help.

4. You feel comfortable with concepts of a "few billion years" and you use it every day when you are trying to put things in perspective?
I feel comfortable with it, but don't have occasion to use it that often.

5 How often do you walk longer than 10 blocks but you can't remember how you got to your current location?
Rarely. I have a very good sense of direction, both on foot and while driving, and even when "lost" can usually navigate back to known territory with minimal aid (never use GPS, sometimes don't even have a map).

6. Did you at one point in your life planned a joke for longer than 3 hours ?
Not sure what this one means.

7 Do you often hava a feeling that people seem to have some universal ways of dealing with each other but you simply can't figure how they do that ?
Yes. It does not seem to rely much upon logic.

8 The only way you can be spontaneous is by deliberately making a choice not to plan and ignoring all the plans that come to as the time goes by ?
I can most easily be spontaneous in two ways, neither of which happens very often. (1) Someone I like and trust just comes along with a suggestion, and I decide in the moment to go along. (2) I stumble across something that catches my attention, and I abandon all previously made plans to take advantage of it because it is such a worthwhile opportunity. I guess (1) could be viewed as a special case of (2).

9. You fairly quicky become bored while dealing with everything that you can't see as useful or something that you can implement somewhere ?
Yes, if usefulness includes worthwhile learning experiences. It is hard to be bored when I am learning something interesting or worthwhile.

10 Going to school or work with one black and orange sock on your feet is something you are comfortable with ?
This is anathema, as is any trace of orange in my wardrobe, unless I am required in some circumstance to wear a safety vest. I am rather particular about my attire.

11 You think that everything you notice with your senses is just a picture created by your brain ? (and you are fullly comfortable with that)
Yes, on some fundamental level, it is.

12 When problem solving (some bigger problem) you almost always start thinking from perspective of your goal and work your way towards you "current position" ? But in one moment you start moving from you current position towards the goal as well ? However at one pint you start to build small pieces between those two "lines" that you are going towards each other ?
Perhaps. I always start with my goal and keep it in focus as I proceed, but the solution usually appears in full if rather sketchy form all at once. The work then is to fill in all the details and cross-check it with the goal and the circumstances to make sure it does, indeed, meet the goal, is doable within existing constraints, does not cause other, worse problems, etc.

13. If you do anything like in the question 12 do you usually imagine multiple way of solving the problem ? Or wonder if the is actually a problem in the first place ? (even if many people say it is)
Yes, I will come up with a best, ideal, or preferred way, and then multiple contingencies on how to proceed if, say, one or another assumption proves incorrect, or this or that potential problem arises. In other words, contingency planning.

14 You get annoyed with people because of something they might do in the future ?
Yes, but usually based upon past experience with the person. It is especially frustrating when it becomes clear that a person just hasn't learned anything from past mistakes.

15 Most of the time you have real doubts that you should live by social norms ? Like wanting to be rich, being high in some socially influental hierarchy or having a SO that loves you ...... etc ?
I don't have doubts, I have a certainty that I should not live by them. If I do want money, or influence, or companionship, or anything else, it will be for my own reasons, not because anyone else expects me to, or defines success that way.

16 You can't answer any question without knowinng the context ? (actually you can but you don't like to do that since context is EVERYTHING)
I can answer, but it will often be prefaced by, "if one assumes X, then the answer is Y; otherwise it is Z or unknown or . . .".

17 If you ever had a serious existental crisis at what age did is started and ended ? (if it ended)
Not sure what this one means. Perhaps this itself means I have not had such a crisis.

18 You put people in all kinds of situations just so see how they will react ?
I do this but only on rare occasion, when I feel it is the only way to learn something I need to know.

19 Do you have a problem verbalizing your thought because you have a problem defining perspective ?
It can take a great deal of effort to verbalize my thoughts, but I'm not sure if this is due to difficulty with defining perspective. It seems more because I can easily "see" my own thoughts - yes, it is often a very visual sensation, even for quite abstract notions - and this can be hard to translate accurately into words.

20 Do others think you need to relax, simple, fun and be less mean/direct with people ?
As others have said, I really don't know what most people think of me. Some probably think this. Others (like my boss) appreciate my directness, ability to process complex ideas, and the seriousness and persistence with which I approach my work.
 

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1. Do you think that there is a point in planning events that are outside of your life span ?
Yes.

2. When you have a 20 not overy complicated scenarios you need no more than 5-10 seconds to figure out a few of them that are most likely. (and you are rarely wrong)
Yes

3. You often can't sleep because you can't turn off your brain? So sometimes you spend entire night thinking.

yep. I'm often over excited and cant sleep.
4. You feel comfortable with concepts of a "few billion years" and you use it every day when you are trying to put things in perspective?
Yep


5 How often do you walk longer than 10 blocks but you can't remember how you got to your current location?
Very often.

6. Did you at one point in your life planned a joke for longer than 3 hours ?
Probably not.


7 Do you often hava a feeling that people seem to have some universal ways of dealing with each other but you simply can't figure how they do that ?

HAhaha.. yeah. More correctly; i cant figure WHY they KEEP doing it that way

8 The only way you can be spontaneous is by deliberalty making a choice not to plan and ignoring all the plans that come to as the time goes by ?
Hell no!



9. You fairly quicky become bored while dealing with everything that you can't see as useful or something that you can implement somewhere ?

hmmmmmm......

10 Going to school or work with one black and orange sock on your feet is something you are comfortable with ?

Absolutely! I absolutely dont see a reason why socks should match, especially if they are not very visible under clothes.

11 You think that everything you notice with your senses is just a picture created by your brain ? (and you are fullly comfortable with that)

i dont trust my senses and think i'll get hurt if i follow that. ex: physical attraction between male-female. I cant follow that...

12 When problem solving (some bigger problem) you almost always start thinking from perspective of your goal and work your way towards you "current position" ? But in one moment you start moving from you current position towards the goal as well ? Not sure.
However at one pint you start to build small pieces between those two "lines" that you are going towards each other ?
No.. i think this is Ne vs. Ni... maybe.. i'd explain it differently.

13. If you do anything like in the question 12 do you usually imagine multiple way of solving the problem ?always multiple Or wonder if the is actually a problem in the first place ? (even if many people say it is)
i always see the problem = things to change


14 You get annoyed with people because of something they might do in the future ?

hmmmm..probably

15 Most of the time you have real doubts that you should live by social norms ? Like wanting to be rich, being high in some socially influental hierarchy or having a SO that loves you ...... etc ?
i dont have doubts, i know i shouldnt live like that.

16 You can't answer any question without knowinng the context ? (actually you can but you don't like to do that since context is EVERYTHING)
what

17 If you ever had a serious existental crisis at what age did is started and ended ? (if it ended)i had it... its kinda ending i hope.


18 You put people in all kinds of situations just so see how they will react ?
no

19 Do you have a probem verbalizing your thought because you have a problem defining perspective ?
no i dont

20 Do others think you need to relax, simple, fun and be less mean/direct with people ?

no

Ok this is enough for now.
 
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interesting questions.. gonna have to read through yalls's responses

let's do this

1. Do you think that there is a point in planning events that are outside of your life span ?
no, I don't tend to think this.. but I recognize the 'not-selfish' aspect of doing so. Part of this is that I don't see much of a point to (detailed) planning of things that are even just a few years away, though.


2. When you have a 20 not overy complicated scenarios you need no more than 5-10 seconds to figure out a few of them that are most likely. (and you are rarely wrong)
yeah, but then there's always a part of me that questions.. "well, what if [scenario I ruled out] has some aspect that's beneficial or worth looking into?" I've got training in engineering/management-related decision analysis, though, so that might factor into this.


3. You often can't sleep because you can't turn off your brain? So sometimes you spend entire night thinking.
yes, this describes me exactly.. Ambien is a godsend. Meditation doesn't work, yoga doesn't work, breathing exercises don't work, melatonin doesn't work.. but that does.


4. You feel comfortable with concepts of a "few billion years" and you use it every day when you are trying to put things in perspective?
no, it's hard for me to conceptualize "a few billion years" from now or to think that far into the future. I can put things in perspective with respect to how they affect me and others in the "long run".. but, well, not that far.


5 How often do you walk longer than 10 blocks but you can't remember how you got to your current location?
all the freakin' time.. GPS on my phone is another godsend. I just tend to remember.. "well, let's see.. I walked straight for some sort of distance.. maybe I turned left there.. uh yeah dunno"


6. Did you at one point in your life planned a joke for longer than 3 hours ?
no, don't tend to do pranks

if you're talking slight conversational jokes that I've come up with and wanted to tell later.. admittedly, yes, I hold some in my head for more than 3 hours :blush:


7 Do you often hava a feeling that people seem to have some universal ways of dealing with each other but you simply can't figure how they do that ?

nope, social science is a complicated beast, but there doesn't seem to be any universal way of dealing with other people. I'd say that I tend to deal with most people pretty well, despite that.


8 The only way you can be spontaneous is by deliberalty making a choice not to plan and ignoring all the plans that come to as the time goes by ?
usually, yes :doh:


9. You fairly quicky become bored while dealing with everything that you can't see as useful or something that you can implement somewhere ?
yes.. but then, I can see where many 'not-useful' things can be useful in another domain, or something like that

Formal logic and theory that cannot be applied very directly tends to bore me.


10 Going to school or work with one black and orange sock on your feet is something you are comfortable with ?
nope, I do usually want to look my best, admittedly :blush:


11 You think that everything you notice with your senses is just a picture created by your brain ? (and you are fullly comfortable with that)
yes and yes.


12 When problem solving (some bigger problem) you almost always start thinking from perspective of your goal and work your way towards you "current position" ? But in one moment you start moving from you current position towards the goal as well ?
However at one pint you start to build small pieces between those two "lines" that you are going towards each other ?

This is exactly how I think. Usually with the end in mind first, then where I'm at, then a connection between the two.

When I or my team gets stuck or faces a problem with some aspect of a project, I tend to ask.. "Wait, what exactly is it that we're trying to do, here? How important is this problem? Is there a way around it?"


13. If you do anything like in the question 12 do you usually imagine multiple way of solving the problem ? Or wonder if the is actually a problem in the first place ? (even if many people say it is)
always

I come up with a list of potential options and either work through them myself or get some insight from my team to see which ones are viable or desirable.

For example, one of the projects I'm currently managing hit a stumbling block due to a clerical error. I looked at our statement of work--the defining document of the overreaching goals that we're supposed to attain--and saw what was important to our customer. Then, I worked from there to develop our options to circumventing that stumbling block, keeping in mind what our customer actually wanted.


14 You get annoyed with people because of something they might do in the future ?
If you're talking about people who have dreams that they don't work toward or continual problems that they do nothing about, then I'll say "yes". If you're talking about personality traits that I see in someone that 'color' what I think they might do or behave toward me.. then.. admittedly, yes :blush:


15 Most of the time you have real doubts that you should live by social norms ? Like wanting to be rich, being high in some socially influental hierarchy or having a SO that loves you ...... etc ?
oh god yes, this describes my line of thinking exactly, in every aspect of my life

I'll flip it around a bit, though. I have some course of action that I'm taking that already deviates form the 'norm' and I end up questioning it sometimes because it's not what people tend to do and thus I might run into problems in the future. But then I get over that and find that what I'm doing works pretty damn well for me.

thankfully, my girlfriend and I are both on the same page here. We both think people should get married or have babies because they want to, not because "it's the thing to do".

People create stupid situations for themselves by following what they're "supposed to do" if they haven't thought about why it is that they're "supposed to do" those things.


16 You can't answer any question without knowinng the context ? (actually you can but you don't like to do that since context is EVERYTHING)
oh god yes

I want to know where what I'm answering or what I'm doing fits in the grand scheme of things.


17 If you ever had a serious existental crisis at what age did is started and ended ? (if it ended)
age 15 to present

I have existential crises a lot, actually

18 You put people in all kinds of situations just so see how they will react ?
Sort of.. but more 'honestly' than what the question implies. I just recognize that certain aspects of a person's personality come out in different situations, so, if I am trying to get to know a person, I do many, many things with them. I get us out there. I stay at home with them. And so on.


19 Do you have a probem verbalizing your thought because you have a problem defining perspective ?
I dance around subjects and sometimes it's hard for me to get to the point exactly because of this perspective 'problem', yes. Seeing things from many angles can suck for productivity unless you can prioritize those angles.


20 Do others think you need to relax, simple, fun and be less mean/direct with people ?
I tend to think this, but then, I'm pretty hard on myself. I don't have a problem being "less mean/direct" with people, but I do have problems just relaxing.
 
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I know that this forum is probably N/Ni biased but none the less I want to compare some of my traits with other posters. I am doing this because I am trying to figure out why I don't get along with almost everybody in real life.
We can talk to each other but I seem to have a fairy different prespective from pretty much everybody. What in the end is a dealbraker quite often.

In other words I would like that other poters just answer a couple of questions honestly. If you are not sure you get the question just say so.


1. Do you think that there is a point in planning events that are outside of your life span ?
not really, unless I had some children and grandchildren

2. When you have a 20 not overly complicated scenarios you need no more than 5-10 seconds to figure out a few of them that are most likely. (and you are rarely wrong) usually but I might need a little longer.


3. You often can't sleep because you can't turn off your brain? So sometimes you spend entire night thinking. All the freaking time.... it's exhausting... Ni maybe?


4. You feel comfortable with concepts of a "few billion years" and you use it every day when you are trying to put things in perspective? if I am talking about evolution, the creation of the earth, or things that occurred a long time ago etc. However, in normal conversation, there's no need.


5 How often do you walk longer than 10 blocks but you can't remember how you got to your current location? All the time... yikes.


6. Did you at one point in your life planned a joke for longer than 3 hours? Probably I plan out conversations all the time but then just go w/ the flow once I talk to the person.



7 Do you often hava a feeling that people seem to have some universal ways of dealing with each other but you simply can't figure how they do that? Maybe the first part but not so much the second part.



8 The only way you can be spontaneous is by deliberalty making a choice not to plan and ignoring all the plans that come to as the time goes by?
yeah, pretty much.


9. You fairly quicky become bored while dealing with everything that you can't see as useful or something that you can implement somewhere? Yeah, in certain situations



10 Going to school or work with one black and orange sock on your feet is something you are comfortable with ? I really could care less about it so sure



11 You think that everything you notice with your senses is just a picture created by your brain ? (and you are fullly comfortable with that) not so much



12 When problem solving (some bigger problem) you almost always start thinking from perspective of your goal and work your way towards you "current position" ? But in one moment you start moving from you current position towards the goal as well ?
However at one point you start to build small pieces between those two "lines" that you are going towards each other ? Yeah, sometimes


13. If you do anything like in the question 12 do you usually imagine multiple way of solving the problem ? Or wonder if the is actually a problem in the first place ? (even if many people say it is) yeah



14 You get annoyed with people because of something they might do in the future ?
sometimes... like they are highly predictable?


15 Most of the time you have real doubts that you should live by social norms ? Like wanting to be rich, being high in some socially influential hierarchy or having a SO that loves you ...... etc ? Yes ALL THE TIME


16 You can't answer any question without knowing the context ? (actually you can but you don't like to do that since context is EVERYTHING) yes, I strongly believe that


17 If you ever had a serious existential crisis at what age did is started and ended ? (if it ended) not sure but I had weird existential thoughts when I was like 6.


18 You put people in all kinds of situations just so see how they will react ?
Sometimes

19 Do you have a problem verbalizing your thought because you have a problem defining perspective ? I think somewhat


20 Do others think you need to relax, simple, fun and be less mean/direct with people ? Relax/simple/fun, yes. The others no.



Ok this is enough for now.

AO, you are pretty much describing really strong Ni and Je (more towards Te, of course).
 

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I am doing this because I am trying to figure out why I don't get along with almost everybody in real life.
We can talk to each other but I seem to have a fairy different prespective from pretty much everybody. What in the end is a dealbraker quite often.

sure, because you seem genuinely interested in finding answers, i'll answer your questions as honestly and openly as i possibly can, and in order to do this as sincerely as possible, i'll be doing it without first reading anyone else's reply.

however, that said, i'd very much like to hear more about how these things are 'deal-breakers' at times.


1. Do you think that there is a point in planning events that are outside of your life span ?

you mean like insurance? wills? things like that? if so, then i can see planning in order to take care of one's loved ones, but have i actually done it? no. i figure at the moment of death, i'll probably scratch out a will on the back of some scrap piece of paper lying near me if i do it at all.

oh, i PLAN to do it some day, but realistically? the above would probably happen.

otherwise, i can't think of any scenarios in which i'd plan anything beyond my death. seems pointless as in, one, i won't be there, and two, i don't flatter myself into thinking that anyone should or would stop what they're doing in life to do something i wanted when alive. not like i'd know one way or another.


2. When you have a 20 not overy complicated scenarios you need no more than 5-10 seconds to figure out a few of them that are most likely. (and you are rarely wrong)

happens all the time. being able to come up with many scenarios has caused others to comment (they see it as complicating things; i see it as simplifying things), and, if it's welcome, then i speak up because if they haven't thought of something then it's possible they could fail by missing many contingencies.

figuring out what is most likely to happen is automatic. which, could be one reason why i'm always starving for something new to learn.

3. You often can't sleep because you can't turn off your brain? So sometimes you spend entire night thinking.

oh god, yes. and in addition to important things, it could be the stupidest shit that i think about too. things that all odds point to never happening. i lie there thinking of what i would do if... or have entire conversations, taking into account all of the possible ways the conversations would/could go, etc..

i see dreaming as a way for the brain to practice facing life. nightmares, for instance, being a way for the brain to practice handling frightening situations so that if something scary were ever to come to pass, it wouldn't be such a shock.

so, when i lie awake doing this, it's almost as if i'm dreaming while awake.


4. You feel comfortable with concepts of a "few billion years" and you use it every day when you are trying to put things in perspective?

this is a question that i'd like to hear more about. i do this, but i'm not sure if it's in the same way in which you're asking.


5 How often do you walk longer than 10 blocks but you can't remember how you got to your current location?

i do this all the time when driving too. i also do it when someone else is driving or walking with me to a location. i can't tell you how many times i've heard, "but you went there with me four times! and, you don't know how to get there?!"

6. Did you at one point in your life planned a joke for longer than 3 hours ?

ha. not only jokes. this answer is about the same as the one i gave for lying awake at night thinking.

7 Do you often hava a feeling that people seem to have some universal ways of dealing with each other but you simply can't figure how they do that ?

i've wondered about this many times, however it's always balanced itself out eventually because people are wrong so very often. especially when dealing with me. so, i've decided that they're just winging it too, but they're usually both delusional about it and simply rarely give it thought, if ever.

not to mention that the study of psychiatry and psychology exists for a reason, and that reason logically confirms my above suspicion.

8 The only way you can be spontaneous is by deliberalty making a choice not to plan and ignoring all the plans that come to as the time goes by ?

can't really relate to this one. i have to do the opposite, actually. while i do plan, i have to work at sticking to that plan, whether my plan or someone else's. i can plan, and even enjoy doing so, but many more times than not, i have to work at sticking to it, unless something like revenge or another similar motivation is involved. then it's very easy; i'm driven.

9. You fairly quicky become bored while dealing with everything that you can't see as useful or something that you can implement somewhere ?

hm. depends. i usually keep from becoming bored by thinking of all of the ways something could be useful, but if it's something like hearing about what someone did that day or some other drivel, then yes, of course i get bored.

housework does this to me for instance. if not for the fact that i learned of all the things that can go wrong in a filthy, cluttered home, then i doubt i'd ever do it. and, even knowing this, i still have to remind myself of the reasons. i never do it automatically or on any type of schedule.

i admire those that do and can for this reason.

10 Going to school or work with one black and orange sock on your feet is something you are comfortable with ?

it takes a shit-ton to embarrass me because of all the ways i've already done so. for example, i realized after half a day once that my pants were on backwards, but only did so after finally realizing i was uncomfortable. then it took me forever for that to register enough for me to wonder why i was uncomfortable. and, even after eventually checking and seeing that they were backwards, two more hours passed before i bothered to do anything about it. even though i was uncomfortable.

11 You think that everything you notice with your senses is just a picture created by your brain ? (and you are fullly comfortable with that)

isn't it?

12 When problem solving (some bigger problem) you almost always start thinking from perspective of your goal and work your way towards you "current position" ? But in one moment you start moving from you current position towards the goal as well ?
However at one pint you start to build small pieces between those two "lines" that you are going towards each other ?

while i have given thought to how i think, i haven't given enough thought to how the mechanics of it usually go in order for me to answer this.

13. If you do anything like in the question 12 do you usually imagine multiple way of solving the problem ? Or wonder if the is actually a problem in the first place ? (even if many people say it is)

oh, absolutely. i always think of every possible way the problem could be solved. even think about all the ways in which it's actually a problem (or not one). as for the second part of your question, many times people see problems where there isn't one. they complicate shit that doesn't need to be complicated.

14 You get annoyed with people because of something they might do in the future ?

ha! no, but this is funny. i'm far too easy-going in most cases for this to happen. if anything, i've let people slide when i shouldn't have because i'm so big on acting on facts instead of suspicion. sure, i've regretted it in many cases, but in more, i've been relieved.

15 Most of the time you have real doubts that you should live by social norms ? Like wanting to be rich, being high in some socially influental hierarchy or having a SO that loves you ...... etc ?

doubts? i'm positive that i shouldn't. i've tried to understand people that do this. really tried to understand the motives behind it, but i simply can't fathom it, so i've given up. now, i just feel a sort of pity for them because, to me, it's a waste of life.

16 You can't answer any question without knowinng the context ? (actually you can but you don't like to do that since context is EVERYTHING)

absolutely. i always need context. different contexts call for different answers. even a simple question can begin with, "well, it depends...". all things have perspectives, and my mind naturally operates by taking all of them into account. if forced to answer without doing so, i'd probably lose sleep afterwards. even following up with phone calls in the middle of the night that start with, "unless, of course,..."

17 If you ever had a serious existental crisis at what age did is started and ended ? (if it ended)

not sure of times.

18 You put people in all kinds of situations just so see how they will react ?

i don't put people in situations literally (that's a lot of work that almost always ends with a lot of needless drama, and useless consequences), but i do often begin conversations with, 'if... then...?" or, "what would you do if...?" or try to get a true, genuine answer by separating them from the outcome by asking something such as, "why do you think people do....?" and then question their answers with different perspectives. so forth and so on.

people usually give up their own motives by prescribing them to others.

19 Do you have a probem verbalizing your thought because you have a problem defining perspective ?

no. i speak in 'perspectives'; i don't define perspective.

20 Do others think you need to relax, simple, fun and be less mean/direct with people ?

i never hear that i need to relax, if anything, i get accused of not taking enough seriously (as i don't always show seriousness), but i do hear that i need to be less direct. however, it's only been on forums. IRL, i've mostly heard appreciation. to the point that when someone wants someone to be direct, they come to me.

Ok this is enough for now.

while i can't see how, i still hope this helped. also, don't forget that i'd like to hear more about the deal-breaking.
 

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Creating a state, organization or ideolgy that will outlive you by far.
(these would probably be the most obvious examples).


If you are refrering to question no. 1

oh, if that's what you meant, then yes, i have a deep sense of responsibility when it comes to kids. i worry about how what i say or don't say or do or don't do will effect their future and the type of person they will be.
 

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Just for the record: I am will be reading all of the replays in this thread.

Let us know if you find anything interesting or reach some form of conclusion. Quite frankly, I'm fairly interested myself how everyone responds, but I so far haven't been able to get me to read anyones post. Shame on my Pness. :D
 

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Response:
1. Do you think that there is a point in planning events that are outside of your life span ?
Yes. If no one planned events outside their life span, then society would be totally screwed after we died. We need to make things right for our children, and not just for ourselves.

2. When you have a 20 not overy complicated scenarios you need no more than 5-10 seconds to figure out a few of them that are most likely. (and you are rarely wrong)
Um, hard to say. I usually don't think about problems in a way that's as complicated as that. Most of the time, I think in terms of what I know for a fact is possible/relevant/efficient, so there are only a few options. In other words, the answer is yes to the second part (doesn't take me a long time to choose the most likely scenarios), but no to the first part (no matter what, I never have 20 scenarios).

3. You often can't sleep because you can't turn off your brain? So sometimes you spend entire night thinking.
Not really. I can get to sleep easily. And when I can't, I use meditation-ish methods to force my brain to turn itself off, and that usually works.

4. You feel comfortable with concepts of a "few billion years" and you use it every day when you are trying to put things in perspective?
Nah. Sometimes I try to think in terms of thousands or millions of years to make myself feel better about things (e.g. the oil spill in the gulf of mexico), but never billions. Can't do it.

5 How often do you walk longer than 10 blocks but you can't remember how you got to your current location?
Never. Five blocks? Sure. But never ten.

6. Did you at one point in your life planned a joke for longer than 3 hours ?
No. I'm too extraverted for that, I think. A few minutes at the most, I think, but not usually for longer than a second or two.

7 Do you often hava a feeling that people seem to have some universal ways of dealing with each other but you simply can't figure how they do that ?
Sort of. There is a degree of emotional fakery that I see a lot with women (especially in the American South) that I'm not as good at. I'm really good at being nice to people, but I'm not as good at faking personal interest. And since I've spent the entire year living with a group of girls who all seem to be Fe-driven in some way or another, I've felt very cold in comparison, even though I'm not cold at all.

8 The only way you can be spontaneous is by deliberalty making a choice not to plan and ignoring all the plans that come to as the time goes by ?
LOL YES.

9. You fairly quicky become bored while dealing with everything that you can't see as useful or something that you can implement somewhere ?

10 Going to school or work with one black and orange sock on your feet is something you are comfortable with ?
Absolutely not. The only mismatched socks I could ever wear are the ones that were sold in mismatched pairs and were meant to be worn that way.

11 You think that everything you notice with your senses is just a picture created by your brain ? (and you are fullly comfortable with that)
I'm not philosophical enough to think that way. At least, not for longer than a minute or two every other month.

12 When problem solving (some bigger problem) you almost always start thinking from perspective of your goal and work your way towards you "current position" ? But in one moment you start moving from you current position towards the goal as well ?
However at one pint you start to build small pieces between those two "lines" that you are going towards each other ?

No. I'm a "point A to point B" kind of person. My thoughts are very linear and based in quick-and-dirty problem fixing: "I see a problem. How can I deal with it? How about doing this? No... maybe this? No... Aha!"

13. If you do anything like in the question 12 do you usually imagine multiple way of solving the problem ? Or wonder if the is actually a problem in the first place ? (even if many people say it is)
N/A

14 You get annoyed with people because of something they might do in the future ?
Sort of. An example: My best friend, who is gay, has been flirting shamelessly via texting with a guy he met on Facebook, and they've never met. They're finally going to meet in a couple of weeks, and the guy my friend's been flirting with has stated that he's been "saving himself" for him. My friend has told me that he doesn't want a long term relationship, but at the same time he's flattered by the comment and hasn't talked to him negatively about it yet. I'm a little annoyed with him now because of the possibility of them getting it on when they meet, which, because my friend is ENFJ and gets very emotionally involved in sex, could easily lead to a long-term relationship, which he didn't even want in the first place.
...Wow, that was TMI. Sorry about that.

15 Most of the time you have real doubts that you should live by social norms ? Like wanting to be rich, being high in some socially influental hierarchy or having a SO that loves you ...... etc ?
I'm an ESTJ. I never doubt that I should live by social norms. However, I don't care that much about status. What I care about is being respected, and making a difference. And if I can do that without being a millionaire, that's fine with me.

16 You can't answer any question without knowinng the context ? (actually you can but you don't like to do that since context is EVERYTHING)
Kind of.

17 If you ever had a serious existental crisis at what age did is started and ended ? (if it ended)
Age nineteen, and it lasted for as long as my philosophy class lasted - i.e. 3 months.

18 You put people in all kinds of situations just so see how they will react ?
No. Never ever ever. I would never do that. Ever.

19 Do you have a probem verbalizing your thought because you have a problem defining perspective ?
Not really. I can always verbalize my thoughts - it's my feelings that are sometimes hard to articulate.

20 Do others think you need to relax, simple, fun and be less mean/direct with people ?
No, except for the relaxing part. I have friends who think I need to relax. On the last date I went on, the guy (ExTP?) told me explicitly: "I would LOVE to get you drunk." Needless to say, there was no second date :laugh:
 

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1. Do you think that there is a point in planning events that are outside of your life span ?

Do you mean personally or Humanity in general?. In regard to the latter.. Of course.
Personally, there could be a point to it. You can plan and do things that are of benefit to others, or even just to send a message from beyond the grave.
If someone has a point, then there is a point.


2. When you have a 20 not overy complicated scenarios you need no more than 5-10 seconds to figure out a few of them that are most likely. (and you are rarely wrong)

This happens especially when dealing with other people and their situations. I am less adept at dealing with scenarios that involve me, I think I become too subjective then.

3. You often can't sleep because you can't turn off your brain? So sometimes you spend entire night thinking.

Yes.. sometimes rather frequently. But It's rare to last the whole night, usually just long enough to mess up the next day.

4. You feel comfortable with concepts of a "few billion years" and you use it every day when you are trying to put things in perspective?


Not only time.. but scope and scale as well

5 How often do you walk longer than 10 blocks but you can't remember how you got to your current location?

Often. I can often walk past my destination

6. Did you at one point in your life planned a joke for longer than 3 hours ?


Maybe a few times when I was younger

7 Do you often hava a feeling that people seem to have some universal ways of dealing with each other but you simply can't figure how they do that ?

Yes and no?.. I am aware I live on the fringe and so I must be missing something. On the other hand I find likewise people and we speak a language that most don't.. so it evens out.

8 The only way you can be spontaneous is by deliberalty making a choice not to plan and ignoring all the plans that come to as the time goes by ?

No .. I am not sure i understand the question.. but If I do then no. I can be spontaneous and not worry about anything else.

9. You fairly quicky become bored while dealing with everything that you can't see as useful or something that you can implement somewhere ?


No.. I would say I can be very fascinated by things that have no practical applications. Not everything has to make sense or be useful. I guess it's enough that it simply exists.

10 Going to school or work with one black and orange sock on your feet is something you are comfortable with ?


First of all I would never own a piece of orange clothing, not even a sock.
But mismatched socks.. school? no problem. For work.. well that would depend on my job. If I was washing dishes.. I don't think I would care. If I was the boss.. then yes I would care and not do it.

11 You think that everything you notice with your senses is just a picture created by your brain ? (and you are fullly comfortable with that)

Well it is isn't it? The brain processes, it's what it does.

12 When problem solving (some bigger problem) you almost always start thinking from perspective of your goal and work your way towards you "current position" ? But in one moment you start moving from you current position towards the goal as well ?
However at one pint you start to build small pieces between those two "lines" that you are going towards each other ?


If you mean non linear then yes I think like that.. But I can not actually implement my plan any other way except linear. This might explain why I get stuck at certain points along the way.

13. If you do anything like in the question 12 do you usually imagine multiple way of solving the problem ? Or wonder if the is actually a problem in the first place ? (even if many people say it is)


Yes and Yes..

14 You get annoyed concerned with people because of something they might do in the future ?

Yes. (see edit)


15 Most of the time you have real doubts that you should live by social norms ? Like wanting to be rich, being high in some socially influental hierarchy or having a SO that loves you ...... etc ?


I have always thought so.. but I have been questioning that side of me of late.

16 You can't answer any question without knowinng the context ? (actually you can but you don't like to do that since context is EVERYTHING)


If I don't understand the context I will say so. I might still answer from my perspective anyway based on the context I interpret.

17 If you ever had a serious existental crisis at what age did is started and ended ? (if it ended)

It started about 2 or so years ago, it is still raging quite strong. I am 41. I have had other existential crisis, but nothing of this magnitude. This is the big daddy, midlife type of existential crisis.

18 You put people in all kinds of situations just so see how they will react ?

When I was younger, I did.


19 Do you have a probem verbalizing your thought because you have a problem defining perspective ?


Sometimes. I am just cocky enough to say it's not me who has problems defining things.. it's people who have hard time even knowing what perspective means, and therefore can't grasp one that doesn't jive with theirs.

20 Do others think you need to relax, simple, fun and be less mean/direct with people ?

Maybe one person. But that is just perspective now, isn't it?
 

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1. Do you think that there is a point in planning events that are outside of your life span ?

For future humanity and everyone outside myself, yes. If those who came before us didn't have a bit of foresight and concern for the future and things outside their immediate lives/self/viewpoint, we might not be nearly as well off as we are. Also, I find short-term gratification and solutions pretty silly and shortsighted, so when at all possible I find much more value in trying to look at things with a longer lens, anticipate future problems/needs, and account for those (I'm talking on a larger societal scale as well - governmental decisions, etc. I think current problems can often be the result of an accumulation of short-term patches. We could use more long-range thinkers.)

Purely selfishly and maybe philosophically, it would be easy to argue there isn't a point. I mean, I could easily argue for myself that there isn't a point to doing anything, in the REALLY REALLY big picture. But that's a dismal path to take in life, so I choose to put forth some effort in the here and now.

I also care quite a lot about life in general (note my avatar :)) - this goes way beyond humanity, in some ways I could care less about humanity. So I'm all for trying to preserve and care for life right now, and for the future.

I hate the lame-ass super-religious cop-out, the gist being 'God has a plan, therefore we don't have to concern ourselves with taking care of the future or of this planet because God will take care of all of that and we don't have to worry about anything'. (Although I'm agnostic bordering on atheist. But regardless, any sort of throwing-accountability-onto-God-or-someone-else and not taking personal accountability/responsibility for yourself and the world at large is irritating to me.)

2. When you have a 20 not overy complicated scenarios you need no more than 5-10 seconds to figure out a few of them that are most likely. (and you are rarely wrong)

Well, yeah, I often toss around out all of the possible scenarios/outcomes of things; that's how I operate. And yes, I can usually hone in on the most likely pretty quickly, assuming I have enough information. If I don't have enough information, and it's a lot of guesswork, then I'll spin around several possibilities without being able to hone in on one.

3. You often can't sleep because you can't turn off your brain? So sometimes you spend entire night thinking.

Very common, although thank goodness it's never the entire night.. worst would be maybe 4 hours.

4. You feel comfortable with concepts of a "few billion years" and you use it every day when you are trying to put things in perspective?

Yes, I'm very comfortable with the concept. Wouldn't say I use it every day but it's definitely a timeframe that's always in the back of my mind.

5 How often do you walk longer than 10 blocks but you can't remember how you got to your current location?

Replace walking 10 blocks with driving my car, and I can relate to it. :) I'll often go into auto-pilot while driving and it may be halfway to my destination and I don't have any memory of the visuals I must have seen while getting to that point.

6. Did you at one point in your life planned a joke for longer than 3 hours ?

I don't think so.

7 Do you often hava a feeling that people seem to have some universal ways of dealing with each other but you simply can't figure how they do that ?

As a pre-teen and teenager I was very vexed by social dynamics and what I observed at school. On some/many levels I didn't get it.

Now I get it. Doesn't mean I like it, but I do feel like I know the 'universal ways of dealing with people'.

But none of this is to say I actually DO fit in with most, or that I don't feel totally messed up quite a lot of the time when it comes to how I view my own relationships and ability to be in them. Let's just say I 'get it', but I don't know that my personality is such that it meshes seamlessly with that way of being.


8 The only way you can be spontaneous is by deliberalty making a choice not to plan and ignoring all the plans that come to as the time goes by

Pretty much!! I definitely Plan for my down-time and non-planned-for-days. :)

9. You fairly quicky become bored while dealing with everything that you can't see as useful or something that you can implement somewhere ?

I become bored when things are no longer a challenge and I feel there's nothing more to be gained or learned. Or when things become too routine and predictable.

10 Going to school or work with one black and orange sock on your feet is something you are comfortable with ?

No

11 You think that everything you notice with your senses is just a picture created by your brain ? (and you are fullly comfortable with that)

No, it's not something I actively think about or focus on, or even care about, even if there's truth to that.

Yes, many of our aspects/senses could be whittled down to the neurological, or could be whittled down further to proteins and molecules and then to atoms and subparticles... but while that's fine and dandy, I don't let that view take up huge amounts of my brain space/thought-time. :)

12 When problem solving (some bigger problem) you almost always start thinking from perspective of your goal and work your way towards you "current position" ? But in one moment you start moving from you current position towards the goal as well ?
However at one pint you start to build small pieces between those two "lines" that you are going towards each other ?


Hmm, not sure. I'd need specific examples to really answer this. I tend to think there are so many different components to it that go on simultaneously that it would be hard for me to really break it down.


14 You get annoyed with people because of something they might do in the future ?

I get annoyed when people repeat the same mistake over and over without seeming to learn anything. I get annoyed for other reasons too. lol.

15 Most of the time you have real doubts that you should live by social norms ? Like wanting to be rich, being high in some socially influental hierarchy or having a SO that loves you ...... etc ?

I've never felt compelled to live by social norms. I dislike many aspects of our society, but there are positive elements as well. Just like in another society or in another century I might approve of a different set of their norms and reject another set.

16 You can't answer any question without knowinng the context ? (actually you can but you don't like to do that since context is EVERYTHING)

I do like as much background info/ the general gist, yes. I tend to need the big-picture before I am able to hone in on the details or find the 'answer'. I don't do well with random details and then trying to grasp the big picture. Need big picture first.

17 If you ever had a serious existental crisis at what age did is started and ended ? (if it ended)

Started age 24-ish, ended completely maybe age 27, getting into age 28.

18 You put people in all kinds of situations just so see how they will react ?
No

19 Do you have a probem verbalizing your thought because you have a problem defining perspective ?
I have problems verbalizing my thoughts because they're typically the result of a lot of introspection and behind-the-scenes brooding and connecting-the-dots. Many various subjects combined, maybe. I'm also not factually-oriented or detail-oriented, so I don't have specifics, or 'proof', to support my thoughts, so my thoughts aren't really fodder for actual discussions/debates. :smile:

20 Do others think you need to relax, simple, fun and be less mean/direct with people ?

Others have thought I need to be more mellow, maybe. I've also never been the life of the party. :smile:

I don't have issues being mean or too direct with people, however; I tend to keep the majority of my opinions/thoughts to myself because I don't like knowingly hurting people. I'm all about diplomacy. Also, most of the time I see little purpose in sharing my thoughts, if I already know the other person isn't going to react well to them or isn't going to understand them.
 

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As far as all the "I want to know what do you think about this AO ?" comments....... that will be posted as another thread fairly soon. Righ now I am only gattering information. :yes:
 

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1. Do you think that there is a point in planning events that are outside of your life span ?

No. I don't think there is a point to anything, but that doesn't stop me from doing things anyway.

2. When you have a 20 not overly complicated scenarios you need no more than 5-10 seconds to figure out a few of them that are most likely. (and you are rarely wrong)

Yes.

3. You often can't sleep because you can't turn off your brain? So sometimes you spend entire night thinking.

Not really, I sleep easy, unless I'm seriously stressed about something.

4. You feel comfortable with concepts of a "few billion years" and you use it every day when you are trying to put things in perspective?

Yes, no.

5. How often do you walk longer than 10 blocks but you can't remember how you got to your current location?

It happens.

6. Did you at one point in your life planned a joke for longer than 3 hours ?

Not really.

7. Do you often have a feeling that people seem to have some universal ways of dealing with each other but you simply can't figure how they do that ?

I generally know the dynamics, but don't always care to or am not able to successfully implement them myself.

8. The only way you can be spontaneous is by deliberalty making a choice not to plan and ignoring all the plans that come to as the time goes by

No, spontaneity comes naturally to me.

9. You fairly quicky become bored while dealing with everything that you can't see as useful or something that you can implement somewhere ?

No.

10. Going to school or work with one black and orange sock on your feet is something you are comfortable with ?

If I'm wearing shoes, it doesn't really matter.

11. You think that everything you notice with your senses is just a picture created by your brain ? (and you are fullly comfortable with that)

Depending on the perspective this can be true, but it's largely irrelevant to me. As to whether I am comfortable with it, absolutely.

12. When problem solving (some bigger problem) you almost always start thinking from perspective of your goal and work your way towards you "current position" ? But in one moment you start moving from you current position towards the goal as well ?
However at one point you start to build small pieces between those two "lines" that you are going towards each other ?


It's not that structured.

14. You get annoyed with people because of something they might do in the future ?

Yes.

15. Most of the time you have real doubts that you should live by social norms ? Like wanting to be rich, being high in some socially influental hierarchy or having a SO that loves you ...... etc ?

Yes.

16. You can't answer any question without knowinng the context ? (actually you can but you don't like to do that since context is EVERYTHING)

Yes.

17. If you ever had a serious existental crisis at what age did is started and ended ? (if it ended)

13, still going.

18. You put people in all kinds of situations just so see how they will react ?

Sometimes.

19 Do you have a probem verbalizing your thought because you have a problem defining perspective ?

Yes.

20 Do others think you need to relax, simple, fun and be less mean/direct with people ?

Rarely, I'm quite laid back.
 

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1. Do you think that there is a point in planning events that are outside of your life span ?

Well I do care about it. If I try to follow my own principles and values in lifetime, then I cannot just ignore them for things happening after my death if I can influence them. Otherwise why would I follow them in lifetime?

2. When you have a 20 not overy complicated scenarios you need no more than 5-10 seconds to figure out a few of them that are most likely. (and you are rarely wrong)

Not sure I understand the question right. Don't know, 5-10 seconds sounds fast for 20 scenarios, but possibly it only sounds so. Don't know what to answer.

3. You often can't sleep because you can't turn off your brain? So sometimes you spend entire night thinking.

Happens so often :/

4. You feel comfortable with concepts of a "few billion years" and you use it every day when you are trying to put things in perspective?

Again not sure I understand the question, but if I do then probably mostly no.

5 How often do you walk longer than 10 blocks but you can't remember how you got to your current location?

It happens sometimes.

6. Did you at one point in your life planned a joke for longer than 3 hours ?

No :p

7 Do you often hava a feeling that people seem to have some universal ways of dealing with each other but you simply can't figure how they do that ?

Sometimes I feel like that.

8 The only way you can be spontaneous is by deliberalty making a choice not to plan and ignoring all the plans that come to as the time goes by ?

No.

9. You fairly quicky become bored while dealing with everything that you can't see as useful or something that you can implement somewhere ?

No.

10 Going to school or work with one black and orange sock on your feet is something you are comfortable with ?

When I know that people won't see it, and they won't if I wear shoes, I wouldn't care.

11 You think that everything you notice with your senses is just a picture created by your brain ? (and you are fullly comfortable with that)

Don't know what to answer.

12 When problem solving (some bigger problem) you almost always start thinking from perspective of your goal and work your way towards you "current position" ? But in one moment you start moving from you current position towards the goal as well ?
However at one pint you start to build small pieces between those two "lines" that you are going towards each other ?


I have no idea, tbh I never have observed how I come to problem solvings. I don't think I really think about solutions in such a structured way.

14 You get annoyed with people because of something they might do in the future ?

Yes.

15 Most of the time you have real doubts that you should live by social norms ? Like wanting to be rich, being high in some socially influental hierarchy or having a SO that loves you ...... etc ?

Yes.

16 You can't answer any question without knowinng the context ? (actually you can but you don't like to do that since context is EVERYTHING)

It depends I think. Sometimes it is fun to do it just for the sake of doing it.

17 If you ever had a serious existental crisis at what age did is started and ended ? (if it ended)

I would call in two such situations in my life. The last was from age 18 until recently. I feel now good since some time, but from past experience I hesitate to say it is already over with 100% safeness. The first I cannot remember anymore when it was, maybe from 13/14 to 16/17.

18 You put people in all kinds of situations just so see how they will react ?

In reality not so much, but maybe sometimes in my mind. Not sure.

19 Do you have a probem verbalizing your thought because you have a problem defining perspective ?

Maybe.

20 Do others think you need to relax, simple, fun and be less mean/direct with people ?

I don't know what others think from me. I don't think people think I need to relax more (actually many might think I am a lazy bum), but some people think probably I should be more fun and MORE direct with people.
 

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1. Do you think that there is a point in planning events that are outside of your life span ?

no... and I don't even beleive in planning activities farther away than the next couple of years either (other than the idea of putting some money aside for retirement)... Planning for things outside of your lifespan sounds so CONTROLLING :shock:

2. When you have a 20 not overy complicated scenarios you need no more than 5-10 seconds to figure out a few of them that are most likely. (and you are rarely wrong)

I trust my instincts and they rarely let me down :)

3. You often can't sleep because you can't turn off your brain? So sometimes you spend entire night thinking.

when I don't sleep because of thought it's usually me mentally running through a list of things I've done and when I'm convinced I'll probably get called out and punished for them :doh:

4. You feel comfortable with concepts of a "few billion years" and you use it every day when you are trying to put things in perspective?

I'm more concerned with now... but the concept of infinity doesn't disturb me... it just doesn't really come up in my every day thinking!

5 How often do you walk longer than 10 blocks but you can't remember how you got to your current location?

how much have I had to drink? :huh:

6. Did you at one point in your life planned a joke for longer than 3 hours ?

the very concept of PLANNING a joke ruins it for me... humor is supposed to be off the cuff or it loses its magic :cry:



7 Do you often hava a feeling that people seem to have some universal ways of dealing with each other but you simply can't figure how they do that ?

No... I'm good at communicating with people... I can even use my body to convey what I want it to properly... I'm that good :cool:

however, if they're all speaking a language I don't understand I have to fall back entirely on body language... and I still do pretty well! :holy:

8 The only way you can be spontaneous is by deliberalty making a choice not to plan and ignoring all the plans that come to as the time goes by ?

no... definitley not... PLANNING is what's difficult for me to wrap my head around!

9. You fairly quicky become bored while dealing with everything that you can't see as useful or something that you can implement somewhere ?

if it's entertaining all is good... if we're talking reading a textbook on theory it'll get tossed in favor of reading up on it on wikipedia or so... if it's necissary at all :laugh:

10 Going to school or work with one black and orange sock on your feet is something you are comfortable with ?

yes... and if anyone points it out I'll make fun of them for it :devil:

probably not orange though... I really don't like the color orange....

11 You think that everything you notice with your senses is just a picture created by your brain ? (and you are fullly comfortable with that)

no... I love my senses, I revel in my senses, I'd never debase them with such a bland label :boohoo:

12 When problem solving (some bigger problem) you almost always start thinking from perspective of your goal and work your way towards you "current position" ? But in one moment you start moving from you current position towards the goal as well ?
However at one pint you start to build small pieces between those two "lines" that you are going towards each other ?


I usually just jump in and work on it physically, where things make more sense... having a routine approach to solving problems really isn't my thing :shock:

13. If you do anything like in the question 12 do you usually imagine multiple way of solving the problem ? Or wonder if the is actually a problem in the first place ? (even if many people say it is)

like I said... I physically jump in to solve it... and if it's not something that can be done that way there's a good chance I'll delegate it to someone else :thelook:

14 You get annoyed with people because of something they might do in the future ?

no... that's not really fair...

15 Most of the time you have real doubts that you should live by social norms ? Like wanting to be rich, being high in some socially influental hierarchy or having a SO that loves you ...... etc ?

I pick and choose what suites me... I don't want money or power, though having someone to go home to at night is nice... not because it's a social norm, but because I like sex and am fond of said person

16 You can't answer any question without knowinng the context ? (actually you can but you don't like to do that since context is EVERYTHING)

:thelook: is this a trick question?

17 If you ever had a serious existental crisis at what age did is started and ended ? (if it ended)

not existential... personal... and the damned thing won't shut up! :tongue:

18 You put people in all kinds of situations just so see how they will react ?

nothing serious... seeing someone's reaction to certain things is pretty priceless though :rofl1:

19 Do you have a probem verbalizing your thought because you have a problem defining perspective ?

I verbalize before the thought is even COMPLETE! :yay:

20 Do others think you need to relax, simple, fun and be less mean/direct with people ?

no... unless I'm mad at them I'm pretty laid back :headphne:
 

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Ok I presume this all. Thanks for the info/data.

Now I am going to reflect on this a little bit if you don't mind.
 

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1. Do you think that there is a point in planning events that are outside of your life span ?

Sure -- Life insurance, paid out to my kids, for one.


2. When you have a 20 not overy complicated scenarios you need no more than 5-10 seconds to figure out a few of them that are most likely. (and you are rarely wrong)

I see things in flashes without having to really analyze it in detail. That's because I did all the analyzing when younger, and nowadays I just skip over things I've already worked through.


3. You often can't sleep because you can't turn off your brain? So sometimes you spend entire night thinking.

One of my more annoying issues. I usually beat it by either sleeping pills, running a white noise machine (which helps), or being so tired I just fall asleep.

4. You feel comfortable with concepts of a "few billion years" and you use it every day when you are trying to put things in perspective?

My thought: This thread won't matter in a few billion years, why are you wasting everyone's time on this forum posting about it? (Annoying to hear, isn't it? Most people will find the perspective irrelevant and irksome.)

5 How often do you walk longer than 10 blocks but you can't remember how you got to your current location?

I don't walk, I drive. And yes, I've driven on autopilot numerous times. A little freaky.


6. Did you at one point in your life planned a joke for longer than 3 hours ?

Yes.


7 Do you often hava a feeling that people seem to have some universal ways of dealing with each other but you simply can't figure how they do that ?

I figured it out.


8 The only way you can be spontaneous is by deliberalty making a choice not to plan and ignoring all the plans that come to as the time goes by ?

I'm naturally spontaneous in terms of always wanting to fit something new and interesting in. However, in other ways I do plan out strategies and such and hate to have them disrupted.

9. You fairly quicky become bored while dealing with everything that you can't see as useful or something that you can implement somewhere ?

It depends on what it is. I'm a sucker for trivia and figuring out how things work. However, on the job or in functional environments, please don't waste my time with pointless diversion, I want to cleanly and efficiently get the job done.

10 Going to school or work with one black and orange sock on your feet is something you are comfortable with ?

You have orange socks? :doh:
Maybe on Halloween. Otherwise please do everyone a favor and lock them up.


11 You think that everything you notice with your senses is just a picture created by your brain ? (and you are fullly comfortable with that)

Senses are nerve impulses. Nothing more, nothing less. What happens in the brain is perception.

12 When problem solving (some bigger problem) you almost always start thinking from perspective of your goal and work your way towards you "current position" ? But in one moment you start moving from you current position towards the goal as well ?
However at one pint you start to build small pieces between those two "lines" that you are going towards each other ?


That's a valid strategy. It depends on the circumstances as to whether it is helpful or not.

13. If you do anything like in the question 12 do you usually imagine multiple way of solving the problem ? Or wonder if the is actually a problem in the first place ? (even if many people say it is)

Of course. How can you settle on the best strategy if you don't consider all of them? Or even meta the problem? Why solve something you don't really need to solve, if you can twist it around to be a help instead of a hindrance?

14 You get annoyed with people because of something they might do in the future ?

It's usually based on something they've done yesterday that lets me know they might do it in the future.

15 Most of the time you have real doubts that you should live by social norms ? Like wanting to be rich, being high in some socially influental hierarchy or having a SO that loves you ...... etc ?

Everyone lives their own life. No one is obligated to live according to norms. However, if you reject norms, then you lose the benefits of society. If you can live with that, go for it.

16 You can't answer any question without knowinng the context ? (actually you can but you don't like to do that since context is EVERYTHING)

I was going to say "Context is everything" but you beat me to it.

17 If you ever had a serious existental crisis at what age did is started and ended ? (if it ended)

God. When WASN'T I having one of those? Probably the last year or two in my life have been the happiest I've ever experienced and I no longer question my reasons to live or what life is about, I can embrace universal ambiguities. And I'm no spring chicken.

18 You put people in all kinds of situations just so see how they will react ?

I model them in my head. I'll sometimes say things to see how people respond, but I try to avoid manipulating people purposefully just for my own curiosity, as it's rather offensive and unfair. So I mentally model them.

19 Do you have a probem verbalizing your thought because you have a problem defining perspective ?

Not sure what you mean, but sometimes it's hard to pick the right perspective in order to describe/approach something from. Too many options, I'm not sure which is best, and I can seem scattered. Picking one angle also seems confining.

20 Do others think you need to relax, simple, fun and be less mean/direct with people ?

No, most people like me and think I'm fun.

Ok this is enough for now.

Good, that took me a whole 8 minutes to get through, I need to go get coffee! :smile:
 
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1. Do you think that there is a point in planning events that are outside of your life span ?

Yes, but I am a mother so.


2. When you have a 20 not overy complicated scenarios you need no more than 5-10 seconds to figure out a few of them that are most likely. (and you are rarely wrong)

True

3. You often can't sleep because you can't turn off your brain? So sometimes you spend entire night thinking.

It is 4:21am and I am filing out this questionnaire......


4. You feel comfortable with concepts of a "few billion years" and you use it every day when you are trying to put things in perspective?

Like how historical patterns repeat themselves, and gaining a wide range knowledge where sometimes you can say with accuracy "This is just like Salem!" ? Then yes.

The whole perspective would be more like what is referenced in question 19.

5 How often do you walk longer than 10 blocks but you can't remember how you got to your current location?

Never

6. Did you at one point in your life planned a joke for longer than 3 hours ?

Yes, I couldn't wait all day to ask the teacher in anatomy if there was more than one way to skin the cat.

7 Do you often hava a feeling that people seem to have some universal ways of dealing with each other but you simply can't figure how they do that ?

Yes, like there is some comraderie that everyone gets, and I have no clue as to what they are talking about. And about as much a chance every really getting to understand it, because my own values pick it apart the closer I look.

8 The only way you can be spontaneous is by deliberalty making a choice not to plan and ignoring all the plans that come to as the time goes by ?

Yes, I call this planned chaos. Setting the perimeters of a situation, then turning my brain off once inside.

9. You fairly quicky become bored while dealing with everything that you can't see as useful or something that you can implement somewhere ?

Frustrated would be more likely.

10 Going to school or work with one black and orange sock on your feet is something you are comfortable with ?

Yes

11 You think that everything you notice with your senses is just a picture created by your brain ? (and you are fullly comfortable with that)

No, I actually have a pretty concrete grasp on my sensory world, and appreciate it fully.


12 When problem solving (some bigger problem) you almost always start thinking from perspective of your goal and work your way towards you "current position" ? But in one moment you start moving from you current position towards the goal as well ?
However at one pint you start to build small pieces between those two "lines" that you are going towards each other ?

Hm, sometimes back planning can cut out a lot of the contingencies of future planning so yes. I do this only to create an outline of the path that needs to be taken, than do futuristic contingency planning to fill in the more relevant "what ifs".

13. If you do anything like in the question 12 do you usually imagine multiple way of solving the problem ? Or wonder if the is actually a problem in the first place ? (even if many people say it is)

I don't usually doubt the problem. I do come up with multiple solutions, but there is always one that sticks out as best. Well like 99.3% of the time. The other solutions are less ideal ways to get there, but still ways.


14 You get annoyed with people because of something they might do in the future ?

No, but I will be cautious of it. If it is not a risk I am willing to take I walk away, if it is no big deal, I will plan ahead so that should it happen there would be no negative impact for me.

15 Most of the time you have real doubts that you should live by social norms ? Like wanting to be rich, being high in some socially influental hierarchy or having a SO that loves you ...... etc ?

Sometimes, when I was younger yes. Now I am over that and just want to see wtf I can accomplish with the time I have left on this planet. More of a personal goal.

16 You can't answer any question without knowinng the context ? (actually you can but you don't like to do that since context is EVERYTHING)

Yes, I can provide an idea but it will be laced with gross generalities. I will not specifically hit on anything. Much different than how I speak when I know the context.

17 If you ever had a serious existental crisis at what age did is started and ended ? (if it ended)

No. I remember not being sure if I could be considered good and bad before, but I think I chalked it up to an ill defined perception of others (blah blah blah). Coming to the conclusion that no matter how I appear on the outside I am a fundamentally better person on the inside. While others may put on a veil of good, and be disgustingly ugly on the inside.


18 You put people in all kinds of situations just so see how they will react ?

I do not need to, people put themselves in enough situations. If I do engage in this behavior it is usually for social kicks. Like showing a magic trick.


19 Do you have a probem verbalizing your thought because you have a problem defining perspective ?

When it comes to the deeper things yes. It seems like everything I say is just slightly off. I tend to get frustrated like I am not communicating the entire concept. Like.....but it is soooo simple!......It looks just like.........gah!

20 Do others think you need to relax, simple, fun and be less mean/direct with people ?

I was told in vent maybe ten min ago I need to relax.

I am never really directed to be less direct or mean. Usually someone will say something like "Jeeze TG that was not called for." To which I almost always reply, "What?"
 
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