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    BITCHES YOU KNOW Ne IS THE BEST!

    (Back to work I now go with my Ne bucket emptied. )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post

    I don't think lacking Se means one can't "react to external concrete details/stimulus/information what-have-you".

    I don't think lacking Se means one no longer has sensory perceptions.

    Rather, I think of Se as a disposition.

    It's a way one orients oneself to the world, specifically with regard to how one prefers to perceive incoming data.

    All human beings have sensory perceptions.

    Se doms (and heavy users in general) just prefer to deal with incoming data in a more concrete, sensory-oriented way.

    That is: they don't like to, or don't have much ability to, absorb the incoming data and see many abstract connections within it.

    Hence why I feel that, in many ways, Ne is Se plus abstract connection-making.

    (aside: although, I was just thinking about whether the same holds true for Ni and Si, and, at first, I felt that it didn't, as I believe Si does make connections, but, on second thought, maybe these connections are not abstract connections, but concrete connections, and, thus, the same thing can be said for Se, that it makes concrete connections; but, then, that got me thinking on the difference between concreteness and abstractness, which, I am sure, will now be a major question in my thinking over the next couple of days...)

    I know your position, and you could stick to your ground there I suppose, but I do believe it's a difficult position to maintain...

    Same goes for Ti.

    I don't think one need use Ti to be able to ratiocinate.

    I just think those who prefer to use Ti more tend to make their decisions based more on ratiocination.

    Remember, this is personality theory, not the basis of our entire neurological happenings (unless, of course, you want to make the argument that it is, which, as I said before, I'm open to, but I think is a very difficult position to maintain).
    Perhaps the super Ne perspective will help-I SEE very little of what is going on around me.

    Often I take a middle step between physically experiencing the sensation and actually understanding it-a translation so to speak.

    My auditory senses are very poor. For violin music I mentally associate it with vibration and feeling which allows me to absorb the music and FEEL it. I recently started to listening to some piano pieces which I found clanky. Until I started translating them into a visual scenario of flickering colors.

    It is almost like I HAVE to find something to connect the incoming sensory stimuli to-or it isnt real. Weird shit.

    (Ask the ISTJs about Si-anyone else will fuck up the description.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orobas View Post
    BITCHES YOU KNOW Ne IS THE BEST!
    Oh hell yeah.
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    Losing any function will be quite problematic.
    However my vote goes to Fe. Since it is possible to completely replace it with Te that is supported with heallthy Fi. (at least in theory)

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    This thread is scary.
    Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antisocial one View Post
    Losing any function will be quite problematic.
    However my vode goes to Fe. Since it is possible to completely replace it with Te that is supported with heallthy Fi. (at least in theory)
    *shudders to consider a world of INTJs that deny their Fe*
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    I'm not sure why it's scary, but I'm pretty sure I know why it's derailed...

    Babylon, what did your post have to do with the op?
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    Quote Originally Posted by aphrodite-gone-awry View Post
    *shudders to consider a world of INTJs that deny their Fe*
    You spelled "Fi" incorrectly.



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    Quote Originally Posted by aphrodite-gone-awry View Post
    *shudders to consider a world of INTJs that deny their Fe*
    Don't worry: they have no Fe to deny, so that world would never exist.
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    I don’t see it as you stepping away from the fire. I see it as the fire directing your course.
    No matter how airy or earthy or watery you become... to many of us you will always be...a super nova."

    "Behind these gates of seeming warmth sits, loosely chained, a fierce attack dog. Perhaps not crazy, but dangerous"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    This thread is scary.
    I KNOW! It's like watching the Nazis decide who was dispendable or something! :horor:

    I think all the functions are pretty necissary- I just suck at some of them!
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