Zarathustra
Let Go Of Your Team
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Vagrant, two things:
1. Your description of the relationship (or, better yet, disconnect) between INTJs and INTPs is very accurate.
The only problem is that you didn't mention that the INTJ is the correct one in that argument.
The INTP thinks the INTJ is "in a box", simply because the INTJ won't waste his time endlessly hammering about in the one place the INTP is determined to do so -- and why should he, when there are obviously more ways to understand the subject than the single one the INTP is obsessing about? -- but, in thinking so, the INTP is really just attempting/hoping to dismiss the INTJ's accurate rebuttals so that he can go back to his tunnel-vision tinkering without feeling like his activities are any less important (because, as an INTP, by nature, he likes to endlessly tinker, and he's gunna keep on tinkering regardless of what that annoying INTJ says ).
But, in all reality, nothing could be further from the truth.
The INTP is the one working within the smaller framework, trying to hammer away endlessly at the same point. The INTJ understands the INTP's point (intuitively), and sees all the problems inherent in taking just that one stance and only looking at the issue from that perspective. The INTP, conversely, thinks that the INTJ just needs to focus on the details the INTP is so happy to obsess over, and THAT THEN the INTJ would get it; but the fact of the matter is, the INTP has no perspective on the matter -- he's so deep inside the issue, so lost in the trees, that he can't see the forest for what it is.
Being of the vastly broader framework, the INTJ is definitely not the one "in the box". He is standing outside the INTP's small little box (ornate and detailed as it may be), looking squarely at him, shaking his head at the inanity of excessive overthinking and the loss of the vast array of alternative (and important) perspectives caused by being so deeply lost inside it (Ti).
2. Your descriptions of Ni and Ne are not very forceful. They may be (somewhat) accurate, but the expression really needs to be worked on.