This is the first time I've heard people describe shapes and patterns of relating information as colored snakes and worms. But thank you for spending the time to describe your take on the difference between N and S approach.
Well first of all I am not people, nor will I ever be.
Second did you like it or did you just wanted to say: at least you tried ent.
Cause if you wanted you immensly hurted my feelings
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Never really in it... Is the difficulty in relating/fitting into the group what drives people to seek out ways of identifying and attempts to explain such differences? That is they look into possible explanations and happen to stumble onto MBTI and stop there because it gives "proof" of such differences and make people feel happier because they're not "freaks" or have mental disorders?
In Germany you get instead of grades in class 1-3 in school an evaluation form describing your behaviour. In mine there was always written "Oliver connects easily with people and has a vivid imagination". "Vivid imagination" was a nice description for "he cant shut his mouth and talks like a waterfall, deriving new meanings where there is nothing to be derived, jumping to conclusions connecting things that are not even existing in the real world".
And thats basically the thing I meant. What I'ld call intuition. What I'ld call different about me. Nowadays I know there are a lot people, who are like me, especially the American culture seems to be more prone to speaking metaphorically or to talk iconoclastic. The German culture is not.
I never had a hard time with being accepted in a group or to find people I can have fun with, but I never managed to identify with them and that's basically all there is to say.
For example a lot of people around here, where I live, tend to say in chatrooms or in reallife "I am bored". Well I am never bored, if I am alone for example. I am bored in church or in the supermarket, but even there I find something to entertain myself with. But I am never bored with myself. It's like a constant neverending adventure going on in your head, resetting from time to time cause your brain is so overloaded with information that it forgets things.
What you are trying here is to form a general assessment to what drives people to think they are Intuitives. I gave you my description and I like you to honour it but not to use it for a therapeuthical concept to analyse why people do what they do. Cause I am as I said not people, I am quite an individual, who is a singularity.
I am not implieing that I am better than anyone or that I am the only individual out there, I am just saying I havent typed myself to be a N cause I wanted to find an answer for an individual existence. I have typed myself N cause I deeply and profoundly understand what Myers and Briggs meant with someone being a N, cause I live their dream.
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There is a story from my life, which may be intresting. I told it before in the forum just in a different context. My first great love, an ISFJ felt in love with my vivid imagination. I brought a new form of fun into her life with my iconoclastic nature. I was best friend with an ENFP that time and that friendship accelerated Ne-insanity to a powerful wrestling tag team, which quick-witted humor was matched by noone.
She fell in love with that happy, playful and optimistic interpretation to life I got and I fell in love with her sensitive, touching and artistical soul ( she was a brilliant painter ). I should be wrong tho, badly...
This different thinking, intuitive nature, my best friend and I got, the ISFJ was attracted to, attracted others. Soon we built a new circle of friends and many people from her (the ISFJ) school came to it. An INTP, an INTJ two INFPs and more casual people, who were not so deeply connected. The INTJ and me were best friends, we even founded a company later, the INTP tho was a different story.
The guy got a troubled life, had to grow up without a dad and he was an ultimately sarcastic and I mean very sarcastic guy. He got a lot of issues and you know ISFJs, they like people with issues. The other thing was, what I tried to understand via Socionics nowadays, ISFJs and INTPs seem to be the same quadra. Back then when the INTP and the ISFJ came together that was when I started to see that my girl wasnt the sensitive person I thought she to be.
No, by a far shot not, she was even more brutal, sarcastic and insensitive than the INTP guy. I mean, I am hypersensitive I admit yes, but I know it and I try to not be it the best possible way. I can take a lot of insensitivities, insults and dumb things until I break but if you have to deal 24/7 with two people forming a sarcastic duo, backbiting the whole day about other peoples lifes, one day too much is too much.
I firstly just became hypersensitive and they dont liked my company no more. My ISFJ didnt try to find out whats wrong with me, nor did she understand it, cause she hadnt got the imagination to think like another person, she just listened. She was good at listening but she never understood.
I didnt overdo it tho, meaning I didnt become all highwire and guilt-tripping everyone but our relationship changed and the ISFJ felt it too. The love was gone.
It all ended with the INTP guilt-tripping my ISFJ about how hard his childhood was and her giving him a kiss to make him feel better and with me jumping over a fence beating the INTP up and breaking his nose and then going to prison to sober up.
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Nowadays with my INFJ things are different. She is even more hyper-sensitive to things than I am. She sees connections everywhere and is pissed by the slightest bit of things. I love that, but I admit it takes a master to handle her and I am not there yet.
But with her, it is like that: she does know that I am feeling bad, before I even feel that I am feeling bad. She is like a mystic on that one. And I so adore her respect and care for my person, cause I give a person I love nothing less in return. I'ld quit my job, crash my car, quit drinking and smoking, I'ld to anything for her. And she gives it back exactly the same way. She exactly sees the same connections, like I do in daily life. We do communicate without words.
It is truly scary.
I dont know if this suffices to qualify for N-Ness, but that is my understanding of it.
I want to ask you tho, to not use my personal stories for therapeuthical purposes or to try to form a general concept explaining how people come to typing themselves a N with them.
Believe me I am not one of those people, seeking shelter under an MBTI tested so called N-function... I am truly insane
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