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The REAL differences between introversion and extroversion

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My money is on an answer that determines overall "extrovertedness" on all functions of a given type.

In short, from my limited learning and experience in this field of study, I'd say there should be SOME way to rank order all types on potential for E/I.

For instance, at the poles, we would have:

ESTP = Most Extroverted
INFJ = Least Extroverted

So here we are:

INFJ<----------------------------------------->ESTP

What's in the middle, and in what order?

Why?

My bet is that overall, the order goes something like:

INFJ<INTJ<INFP<INFP<-----??????????-----ESFJ>ESTJ>ESFP>ESTP

Discuss and thoughts.

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Why would INFJ be most introverted when they've got that whole Fe thing going on?

I would think those with the introverted judging functions would be the most introverted while those with the extroverted judging functions would be the most extroverted.

I guess I see it as... introverts oriented by their internals, extroverts oriented by externals.
 

PoprocksAndCoke

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Introverts need time to be alone and analyze themselves, and extroverts panic cut off from the world.
 

Thalassa

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I thought that INTP was the least extroverted....
 

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INTP are the most introverted, INFJ usually tend to have a close batch of friends and are distant to everyone else, INTPs are detached from everyone including friends
 

The Outsider

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INTP are the most introverted, INFJ usually tend to have a close batch of friends and are distant to everyone else, INTPs are detached from everyone including friends

Where did you pull that from?
 

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Why would INFJ be most introverted when they've got that whole Fe thing going on?

I would think those with the introverted judging functions would be the most introverted while those with the extroverted judging functions would be the most extroverted.

I guess I see it as... introverts oriented by their internals, extroverts oriented by externals.

The most introverted type would have to be the introvert with the most introverted extraverted function. Which I think is Ne. So, some form of INXP would be the most introverted type imo.
 

PoprocksAndCoke

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Probably INTP - Ti vs. Fi, Ti is probably more skeptical of all things extraverted.
 

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This is what sealed ENFJ for me. I can't remember the resource though.


Extroversion and introversion fundamentally involves (1) where someone gets energy and (2) how that person processes information.

****EXTROVERTS****
Extroverts get energy from being around people in unstructured settings. Often, simply being in the same room with other people energizes them. They are drained when being isolated or in an environment with incredibly structured interpersonal relationships. Often extroverts in these situations will find themselves picking at food, making random phone calls, or getting up and walking the halls in an attempt to re-energize themselves.

When it comes to processing information, it’s been said that if extroverts aren’t talking, they aren’t thinking. That isn’t too far from the truth. Extroverts are verbal processors—they talk about their ideas, tweak them as they talk, and then figure out what they’re thinking. This can be confusing for others because it can look like extroverts are forever changing their mind. Often an idea isn’t “real” until an extrovert has been able to brainstorm about it with other people. For them, interacting with people IS a worthy objective and a concrete task.


****INTROVERTS****
Introverts, on the other hand, tend to get energy from being alone or working with people in very structured ways. This does NOT mean they are socially inept. It simply means interacting with people for extended periods of time, especially in unstructured settings, will usually drain them. They’ll often need to go to lunch alone or close their office door to re-energize.

When introverts process information, they do the processing internally. They’ll mull over an idea by themselves, polishing it, making it just right. THEN, they’ll be ready to share it with others. When they finally do verbalize their idea, it’s a finished product.

Pits, you're marvelous. Yes, this describes the main difference very well.

See, when I talk about things, I'm playing with the ideas in my mind. This tendency used to drive my husband, who is an EXTREME introvert, bat-shit crazy because HE thought that once I had addressed it, I had already polished it in my brain and was presenting a course of action. This characteristic makes introverts THINK that extraverts are 'flippant' or 'flaky.'

On the other hand, my husband would present ideas only after they were processed, decided, and finished, which used to piss me off. Why? Because I thought that the presentation was throwing ideas on the table, we were opening something up for discussion. Then, it was clear that he had already made up his mind. So I was thinking - WHY SHARE IF YOU HAVE ALREADY DECIDED??? Seems very closed-minded to me.

In reality, however, introverts are not closed-minded, and extraverts are not flippant; we just process information differently.
 

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I know for myself when I am working through a problem I like to think out loud. I can figure out the problem on my own but I like to talk it through and have someone listen. Which seems kinda of crazy because I already have figured it out in my head. Just hearing it re-enforces it. I know the introver I am close to is the exact opposite. She likes to be alone and figure it out and might talk to me after she has figured it out. Sometimes she will talk through it when it is just me. For me I might talk it out with 4 or 5 people. Hope that made sense.
 
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Talking about things before I've figured them out just confuses me. It makes me doubt myself.

I guess that's part of why I get confused when the extroverts I know are always asking for advice or asking my opinion. It's like, uhh, haven't you thought about it? But I know they just need to bounce it off somebody. Not that I don't ever do this, but as I said, it just confuses me, makes me less sure of my decisions/direction.

I'll talk out loud to myself sometimes when I'm alone. But I suppose that's different...
 

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I love to talk out loud and ask advice. It helps me to gather material to form whatever I am working on.
 
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