• You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community, you will have access to additional post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), view blogs, respond to polls, upload content, and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free, so please join our community today! Just click here to register. You should turn your Ad Blocker off for this site or certain features may not work properly. If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us by clicking here.

Ti/Te users: Explain the differences.

Jack Flak

Permabanned
Joined
Jul 17, 2008
Messages
9,098
MBTI Type
type
Te- concise and to the point

Ti- highly descriptive and at times meandering from the point; thorough, though, very, very thorough
That's not it.

The difference between Ti and Te, as abstract concepts (Note, if you haven't previously, that I don't think they should be applied to 16-type), is one of subject matter.

Ti extracts conclusions from within, subjectively, and Te judges based on empirical data. What you see, originating from anyone but yourself, is almost always Te, unless it's Ti disguised as something else.
 

Sean O

New member
Joined
Jan 8, 2009
Messages
6
MBTI Type
ENxJ
Enneagram
8w7
Ti analyzes, categorizes, distinguishes and forms logical models of things. You could think of it as the process-oriented thinking. Te explains, organizes, measures and controls. You could think of it as the product-oriented thinking.
 

Blackmail!

Gotta catch you all!
Joined
Mar 31, 2008
Messages
3,020
MBTI Type
ENTP
Enneagram
7w8
Ti analyzes, categorizes, distinguishes and forms logical models of things. You could think of it as the process-oriented thinking. Te explains, organizes, measures and controls. You could think of it as the product-oriented thinking.

I think that the relevant word is CONTROL.

Ti means control over yourself, your ideas and your creations, while Te means control over everybody else.

That's why Te is often associated with J-types, and Ti with P-types. Their uses are correlated with Judging functions.
 

Jack Flak

Permabanned
Joined
Jul 17, 2008
Messages
9,098
MBTI Type
type
Ti analyzes, categorizes, distinguishes and forms logical models of things. You could think of it as the process-oriented thinking. Te explains, organizes, measures and controls. You could think of it as the product-oriented thinking.
Ti creates subjective conclusions. It doesn't analyze the object.

It's by happenstance that reality matches the creations of Ti upon testing. It's not the favorite function of the best analysts or logicians, because its creations are only coincidentally in sync with reality.

Excerpt from Psychological Types:

When the objective orientation receives a certain predominance, the thinking is extraverted. This circumstance changes nothing as regards the logic of thought -- it merely determines that difference between thinkers which James regards as a matter of temperament. The orientation towards the object, as already explained, makes no essential change in the thinking function; only its appearance is altered. Since it is governed by objective data, it has the appearance of being captivated by the object, as though without the external orientation it simply could not [p. 432] exist. Almost it seems as though it were a sequence of external facts, or as though it could reach its highest point only when chiming in with some generally valid idea. It seems constantly to be affected by objective data, drawing only those conclusions which substantially agree with these. Thus it gives one the impression of a certain lack of freedom, of occasional short-sightedness, in spite of every kind of adroitness within the objectively circumscribed area. What I am now describing is merely the impression this sort of thinking makes upon the observer, who must himself already have a different standpoint, or it would be quite impossible for him to observe the phenomenon of extraverted thinking. As a result of his different standpoint he merely sees its aspect, not its nature; whereas the man who himself possesses this type of thinking is able to seize its nature, while its aspect escapes him. judgment made upon appearance only cannot be fair to the essence of the thing-hence the result is depreciatory. But essentially this thinking is no less fruitful and creative than introverted thinking, only its powers are in the service of other ends. This difference is perceived most clearly when extraverted thinking is engaged upon material, which is specifically an object of the subjectively orientated thinking. This happens, for instance, when a subjective conviction is interpreted analytically from objective facts or is regarded as a product or derivative of objective ideas. But, for our 'scientifically' orientated consciousness, the difference between the two modes of thinking becomes still more obvious when the subjectively orientated thinking makes an attempt to bring objective data into connections not objectively given, i.e. to subordinate them to a subjective idea. Either senses the other as an encroachment, and hence a sort of shadow effect is produced, wherein either type reveals to the other its least favourable aspect, The subjectively orientated thinking then appears [p. 433] quite arbitrary, while the extraverted thinking seems to have an incommensurability that is altogether dull and banal. Thus the two standpoints are incessantly at war.
 

Bougal

HUZZAH!
Joined
Sep 26, 2008
Messages
708
MBTI Type
ENTP
Tes tend to make most people want to gouge their eyes out. Especially the ESTJs. AAAHHHHHH!


Oh wait, I'm an extraverted thinker... :doh:
 

alcea rosea

New member
Joined
Nov 11, 2007
Messages
3,658
MBTI Type
ENFP
Enneagram
7w6
I have understod that Te is about organizing.
Some people with strong Te use it to organize people, some to organize things, some to organize thoughts, some to organize projects :laugh:

Ti is a very strong problems solving ability.
 

527468

deleted
Joined
Oct 22, 2008
Messages
1,945
Your guys' definitions are good, but not the best.

Te - exercising your knowledge

Ti - gaining an understanding

One you usually do more than the other. Well developed Ti actually makes for the best analyst. Te is occasionally like troubleshooting.
 

Athenian200

Protocol Droid
Joined
Jul 1, 2007
Messages
8,828
MBTI Type
INFJ
Enneagram
4w5
I've posted a thread on this subject before, so here's my two cents:

I'm trying to further my understanding of the differences between Ti and Te. I know that they are both logical functions that make decisions oriented on the impersonal/objective factor. I think my abstract definitions, previously posted here, are potentially useful.

Ti -- Modifies/understands an external system via internal rules/principles.
Te -- Modifies/understands an external system via external rules/procedures.

What I'm interested in now, is how users of each function see their own use of it, and how they contrast themselves with a user of the oppositely directed version of the Thinking function. Depending on how many respond, we may also be able to explain/understand the differences between the dominant and auxiliary roles of each type of Thinking.

My theory about Thinking in general, whether it's introverted or extraverted, is that it tries to be primarily oriented to that which is outside the self-perception, the external system, or the objective factor, as much as possible. I think Ti is more focused on understanding/explaining the objective factor as completely/precisely as possible, and Te is more focused on applying the objective factor to situations as impersonally as possible.

So, please attempt to describe how your thinking function works for you.
 

527468

deleted
Joined
Oct 22, 2008
Messages
1,945
This is good Athenian, though

Your guys' definitions are good, but not the best.

Te - exercising your knowledge

Ti - gaining an understanding

One you usually do more than the other. Well developed Ti actually makes for the best analyst. Te is occasionally like troubleshooting.

Modification is applied more to Ti, otherwise replacement. See one with Te will take into account knowledge "A" and knowledge "B" of a subject wherever applicable, like you have said "procedures." One with Ti in a given situation will revert to knowledge "A" until he finds reason that knowledge "B" of the subject is more suitable.

To be put a few ways:

Te is exercising knowledge and Ti is gaining an understanding.

Te's motive is distinguished, Ti's motive is selective.

Te is technical, Ti is mathematical.

Te may take one solution at a time, observing the process. Ti may input the question into a predetermined equation thus falling full proof of their original understanding.

Te "just the way it is right now" - seeking solution. Ti "whatever doesn't fit doesn't apply" -seeking clarity

Ti may be seen as less rational, but that's because it is less conventional. Most people are extroverts thus most primary thinkers have Te.
 

alicia91

New member
Joined
Nov 20, 2007
Messages
671
Ti versus Te - please explain

Still not clear on the differences. They sound kind of the same to me.

(yep, I'm doubting my type).

Alicia
 

alicia91

New member
Joined
Nov 20, 2007
Messages
671
Thanks Jack. I'm also going to read some of the Extroverted S-types.

(What I'm really doubting is my level on E versus I. I've always thought that I was towards the middle of the spectrum but a little more on the I-side. Now, that I'm out of the funk I was on for quite some time, I believe I'm slightly on the E side).
 

Xander

Lex Parsimoniae
Joined
Apr 24, 2007
Messages
4,463
MBTI Type
INTP
Enneagram
9w8
Suggestion, think of it more in terms of what realm you like to spend time in (introverted world versus extraverted world) rather than in terms of how bombastic you are or similar.
 

Xander

Lex Parsimoniae
Joined
Apr 24, 2007
Messages
4,463
MBTI Type
INTP
Enneagram
9w8
*sigh*

I guess I failed then to properly educate people....

Ti is T applied internally. Te is T applied externally. They are one and the same.

See the differences between E and I for your definitions if you still want them.
 

alicia91

New member
Joined
Nov 20, 2007
Messages
671
Introverted world = time alone thinking, making plans, etc.
Extraverted world = out with people, socializing

Is this what you mean?

Lately I've noticed that I'm happiest when I'm out and about, being around others, feel more energized and alive. When I look back at the happiest times in my life - it was when I was more outgoing and leading people. But I've gotten into this rut staying home with the kids and being so isolated - and convincing myself that this is making me happy.
 
Top