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N's feeling pressured to act like S's?

Sentura

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EA is always looking for those people. They rarely hire though. It's just a "dream job" listing.

how would you go about proving this?

it's rare that i see people this petty.
 

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how would you go about proving this?

it's rare that i see people this petty.

Just what I've heard over the years, I don't know why EA is petty.
 

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merit to make this statement true

Oh, that's easy. See how long it is listed or reposted. In this economy those jobs should be snatched up quickly.
 

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let me know when it happens.

I won't remember. I'm not too good with details...


Anyway, most people know that iNtuitive-style jobs are hard to come by. The main reason is these jobs (much like the army general example from above) aren't given to just anyone that walks in off the street. They are usually filled from within the organization, after paying your dues for years in the lower-level (and more detail-oriented) positions. The positions that drive iNtuitives crazy.
 

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I won't remember. I'm not too good with details...


Anyway, most people know that iNtuitive-style jobs are hard to come by. The main reason is these jobs (much like the army general example from above) aren't given to just anyone that walks in off the street. They are usually filled from within the organization, after paying your dues for years in the lower-level (and more detail-oriented) positions. The positions that drive iNtuitives crazy.

it is true that it works hierarchically, but that doesn't mean you need years of experience to get or do them. it's about seeing the possibilities to change your position that makes N brilliant. anyone can find any job, but people who know how to look can find jobs that they want to do.
 

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it is true that it works hierarchically, but that doesn't mean you need years of experience to get or do them. it's about seeing the possibilities to change your position that makes N brilliant. anyone can find any job, but people who know how to look can find jobs that they want to do.
Are you a career counselor or something?
 

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Are you a career counselor or something?

why would i be? i consider this elementary knowledge. if you don't like doing your job, you find a new better one. over time, you get better at finding those jobs that you want.
 

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I am too detached to really experiance this. Especially since people I tend to talk to are Ns. However I can willingly make my approach to be more sensorish just to ensure that people understand me.
What can't be done always since some things are abstract by nature.
 

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why would i be? i consider this elementary knowledge. if you don't like doing your job, you find a new better one. over time, you get better at finding those jobs that you want.
What's your point again?
 

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why would i be? i consider this elementary knowledge. if you don't like doing your job, you find a new better one. over time, you get better at finding those jobs that you want.

:sigh:

I wish that was the case. Like I said, I have been searching for months no one will even give me a chance. I'm getting down toward begging for any goddamn entry-level position advertised (despite having a degree covering both theoretical and practical knowledge of my field). Everyone wants experience but no one is will to let me attain some.

I agree with MacGuffin in the sense that a lot of industries (particularly those with very N type jobs) are rather closed off to the general public. You have to have an 'in' first, which is insanely difficult if you don't know the right people etc. They hardly ever advertise that sort of stuff.
 

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:sigh:

I wish that was the case. Like I said, I have been searching for months no one will even give me a chance. I'm getting down toward begging for any goddamn entry-level position advertised (despite having a degree covering both theoretical and practical knowledge of my field). Everyone wants experience but no one is will to let me attain some.

I agree with MacGuffin in the sense that a lot of industries (particularly those with very N type jobs) are rather closed off to the general public. You have to have an 'in' first, which is insanely difficult if you don't know the right people etc. They hardly ever advertise that sort of stuff.

how far have you gone with your search? have you taken it overseas? what field exactly are you in? supply and demand in different places can make a lot of difference in job openings in specific areas.

Can you succinctly articulate your point?

1. there are numerous jobs that aren't detail oriented for uneducated people or entry levels if you search in the right places.
2. if you don't like doing your job, you find a new better one. if you search well enough, you can find that job.
 

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1. there are numerous jobs that aren't detail oriented for uneducated people or entry levels if you search in the right places.
2. if you don't like doing your job, you find a new better one. if you search well enough, you can find that job.

I'm afraid I can't agree with you, specifically the "entry level" part.
 
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