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    Default Idealists - How do you deal with cynical people?

    A friend believes that people are fundamentally bad. How do you react?

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    he wants to change? cause people don't really consist of their so called views (opinions). either theses views are just a random imprecise expressions of who they are, or they are completely meaningless to the psyche. an expression is not an causal connection, its just a one way street. our behavior does depend on "views", but this is not who we are, anyway. so leave Brittney alone

    wait, you want him to act differently, right?

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    They let me see things in another light, I am indifferent to them unless it gets in the way of their judgment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kai View Post
    A friend believes that people are fundamentally bad.
    They aren't?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kai View Post
    A friend believes that people are fundamentally bad. How do you react?
    That they are projecting their own badness on mankind.

    Meh, I am not a fan of neg-heads, nope!
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    you know...for some reason it's so absurd to me that i think it's kinda cute...weird, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauren Ashley View Post
    They aren't?
    They might be.
    I don't hold that view though.

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    I'd try to figure out their reasoning and what it's based on and try offer perspective, i suppose.

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    I'm not quite an idealist, but I would ask the friend, in what way are people fundamentally bad? Then from there I would probably end up steering the conversation towards the idea that we can easily define humans as fundamentally good or bad, and that the truth is that they are neither.

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    ^ I agree. People are neutral as a whole..

    On a side note, I think people relate selfishness as evil, because people are social by nature and we've built our society around the need to interact and rely on others. Do I rely on people? Hell no. But I don't think they're evil as a whole. It'd be like saying spiders are evil because they're selfish beings that only take care of themselves.. but I acknowledge that and know that if I walk into a spider web, I probably won't get served tea. .. unless it's that one book I'm in.. and then I'd complain about not being sucked into Alice in Wonderland instead.
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